Poets and Quants

Admission Questions? Ask Our Expert

by Chioma Isiadinso

Chioma Isiadinso

I had been in the admissions business for three years at Carnegie Mellon University when I moved to Cambridge to take on an assistant director role at the Harvard Business School. From the open houses and information sessions to the countless phone calls that barraged our offices every day, one thing was clear: MBA candidates were stressed out about their applications. It’s safe to say that with rejection numbers in the 80-to-90 percent range at the best schools, applicants recognize that they are up against significant odds to get an acceptance letter from a top program.

I took away one important lesson from my ten years in admissions: The successful candidates are highly memorable. It wasn’t until I left Harvard and launched my consultancy firm, EXPARTUS, that it dawned on me that the successful applicants to business school had figured out what many consumer goods companies know too well: the importance of selling a value proposition to a customer. I authored The Best Business School Admissions Secrets, and now counsel MBA applicants to help them find the right value proposition to get into their dream schools. Some of my advice can be found here at Poets&Quants, including Understanding the MBA Admissions Cycle and GMATs and GPAs: What You Need to Know About the Raw Numbers.

In any case, I’ve agreed to help anxious applicants with difficult questions at Poets&Quants. No question is out of bounds. Worried about your undergraduate record? Concerned about your GMAT score? Not entirely certain where you should apply to get your MBA? Unsure of how to answer the essay questions? Wondering who you should ask to write your letters of recommendation?

Fire away. I’ll do my best to answer your queries.

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  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi HopefulinAK

    Thanks for your questions.

    You asked about whether you are competitive with a 720 GMAT (low Q 65%/V 99%) as a public sector applicant. The short answer is yes, you could still gain admission to a top 10 MBA program despite a low Q. We have had clients overcome a low quant score but it depends on what else you have going on. The Econ MS could help you but will depend on how well you did. Also will come down to how strong the undergrad performance was. If strong, then it helps take the edge off the below average Q score. You are also more than your GMAT so the school would really look at the different perspective you would bring, plus the trajectory of your work experience in the government sector. It sounds like you have some solid leadership experiences to draw from so that will definitely help.

    Regarding your second question about universal letters of recommendations, I say STAY AWAY FROM THEM. Recommendations are very important and the schools are all different with different nuanced traits that they look for in candidates and it is important to take the time to address each recommendation questions instead of a generic response.

    I would also encourage you to not apply to 10 schools—way too many. You can choose yours schools strategically and should be able to pick 6 schools that will yield at least one admit offer. Happy to speak offline if that helps.

    Chioma
    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi Top 10 2012

    Schools do not discriminate against applicants with kids and are basically indifferent to whether an applicant is married or has children, etc. On the issue of sharing your accomplishment in the context of raising a 3 year old, it is a personal decision that only you can make. You have to ask yourself exactly what bearing it has in the context of business school. From my time on the admissions board, I have to confess that must essays around significant other or responsibility of child rearing were not home runs. In some rare instances, however, I came across some moving stories that provided interesting insights about the applicant. I’m a mom of two kids under 5 with the younger one only a few months old so I can relate. But judge carefully what exactly the topic will reveal about you, your leadership potential and the MBA context.

    Take care!

    Chioma
    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi MW,

    The profile is strong. But I’m sure you will note in many of my previous posts that often applicants have all the necessary materials but they end up not getting admitted. Bain (+sponsorship), Canada charity, excellent academics all point to probable admit if you play all your cards right. It will come down to your essays, how you interview, and what the recs say about you.

    All the best.

    Chioma
    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi MrSurfer

    Thanks for your question. Hang in there and don’t allow your frustrating GMAT to deter you!

    Your work story is interesting and the adcom will like that you left your country to work in a new environment. They would want to understand what you are currently doing and how it fits with your plans to work in small/medium biz in Mexico. I think you should widen your list to beyond top 15 schools given the GMAT. Consider programs like UT Austin (McCombs), UNC (Kenan-Flagler) and Indiana (Kelley).

    Chioma
    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • Teeyah

    Chioma,

    thanks for taking the time to answer questions. I would really appreciate some feedback on my application. I am interested in a JD/MBA. Stats shown below.

    GRE 650V/780 Math (92/89 percentile respectively)
    GPA: 3.6 mechanical engineering from top engineering Ivy
    Work: 2.5 years experience at major oil company (Exxon, Shell , ConocoPhillips etc)
    EC: Leadership position throughout college. Initiated several projects in developing countries (raised close to $100K to support projects)
    Goal: To move back to native African country (US citizen) assist with developing framework to support safe and reliable Oil production and operations in general. Would like to transition into a government role later in my career.

    Story: I applied and got accepted into Harvard Law School and deferred admission to partly assist in organizing oil lectures at major university in African country of interest. Lectured on different topics within the industry and I have sinced gained a different perspective and would like to pursue a joint JD/MBA at Harvard. I was wondering what your experience was like with JD/MBA applicants and how my profile matches up to Harvard. I am really passionate about both degrees and if I knew what I know now, I would have applied to a variety of JD/MBA programs at the top schools. It really seems I have only one option now since I have already committed to attending HLS and really excited about that but I am really nervous about being rejected at HBS. Any tips on how to present my case for both degrees? Thanks a lot

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi 2012 Hopeful,

    The CFA is viewed favorably for individuals who are interested in investment management. It’s a tough exam and passing all three levels shows dedication. It matters less for schools that are not huge finance schools, though.

    Hope that helps.

    Chioma
    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • Top10_2012

    Thank you Chioma for your response. I understand your response about the kids issue. There’s no way I’m going to make an essay out of it because I don’t have anything significant to say about it, except that is a lot of work of course. But I thought I might mention it in the passing at least because being a father has changed me significantly and it does leave even less time for extracurriculars, but like you said….at the end of the day I have to relate it to the MBA.

    I didn’t know schools were even allowed to ask but apparently some ask right upfront in the personal info section of the application. I’m worried about mentioning it and it affecting my application negatively due to a perceived limited leadership “potential” due to the additional responsibility.

    Great book by the way (“Best Business School Admission Secrets”), one of the must-reads for MBA hopefuls.

  • GOBOLTS

    Hello Chioma,

    I was hoping that you could provide advice on how to deal with being put on the waitlist. I’m currently on the waitlist at Chicago Booth, which is my top choice. The school seems more open to communication from waitlisted candidates than most schools. In fact, Chicago Booth is letting waitlisted candidates create a video of no more than 90 seconds this year giving them additional information. Any guidance you can provide is greatly appreciated.

  • Enlisted Vet Eyes Ivies

    Hello Chioma,

    Thank you for the valuable service you provide. It helps to have an objective voice amidst the storm of opinions. I am a US Army veteran looking to transition into business, and would appreciate your feedback.

    GMAT: 730 (Q47, V44)
    GPA: 4.0 from public, non-profit, distance-learning college; also studied abroad in China
    Work: 5+ years in US Army & Reserve, 2+ years in leadership roles
    Extras: fluent in Chinese, volunteer medic for Special Olympics, sponsor of a child in India, belong to two professional organizations
    Goal: General Management, possibly in China

    Schools:
    Dartmouth
    Harvard
    Wharton
    Yale

  • ThanksChioma

    Hi Chioma,

    Thanks again for answering my earlier question. I just have one follow up question for you: how do you feel top-10 schools view experience within a custody bank? I’ve heard they don’t think highly of them, but I hold a strategic position and have multiple promotions under my belt. Ultimately, I’m trying to find out if I can get into a top school from where I am now or if I need to consider transitioning into a different firm, so any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Happy Holidays!

  • HopefulinAK

    Thanks so much for the good advice!

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/dylanc/ dylanc

    Hi Chioma,

    I am an interested applicant interested in a post MBA transition to finance from HR. While I am keen on applying to Ross, Duke and Darden, I have been advised by friends to also look at schools from among Columbia, Wharton, Stern and Booth. I believe I have a competitive GMAT score (730), but a low GPA (around 2.8). My experience at the time of joining the course will be over 6 years. In your view will experience in a field like HR which is relatively uncommon coupled with a strong SOP help offset the low GPA.

    Currently I am planning to apply to 1 reach- Stern, Ross, Duke, Darden and 1 safe school. Is this an advisable selection or do I need chose more safe schools.

  • InternationalGuy

    Hi Chioma, I was wondering if you’d be able to provide some perspective on my background and level of competitiveness for admission to top MBA programs. I’ve put a profile of myself below followed by several questions.

    Demographics: 28, Asian-American male
    GRE: 1500 (710V / 790Q / 4.0AWA)
    Languages: advanced Spanish, high intermediate Italian, intermediate Korean
    Undergrad: 3.40 from Rutgers Business School, majors in accounting and economics. Extracurriculars included work study jobs, internships with major companies, and a year with the Rutgers club volleyball team.
    First job (2005-08): public accountant at Deloitte. 2.5 years.
    CPA: passed exams in 2005-06, obtained license in 2007
    Volunteer experience (summer 2007): volunteer English teacher in rural village in Costa Rica
    Grad school (2008-10): 3.44 from Johns Hopkins School of Advanced Int’l Studies (SAIS); Master of Arts, international relations and international economics. One year study abroad in Italy. Extracurriculars included membership on a student government committee.
    Internship (summer 2009): improving management policies in the microfinance department of an NGO in Paraguay
    Internship (fall 2009): research intern at Washington, D.C. think tank
    Second job (2010-12): emerging markets analyst at small research firm in City of London. Do political and economic analysis plus economic forecasting of emerging markets, write articles and reports, participate in client meetings, and respond to media inquiries. 1.5 years experience.
    CFA: passed Level I exam in June 2011, sitting for Level II in June 2012
    Current extracurriculars: preparing for CFA and writing first novel

    My goal is to work at the intersection of emerging markets, finance, and entrepreneurship/strategy – whether through consulting, private equity-type work/banking, or general management. I’ve applied to only two schools so far. I’ve been admitted to the IE Business School Int’l MBA program in Spain, and I’m awaiting decision for Fulbright scholarship. I’m also waiting to hear from HBS, and considering MIT. My choice of schools is really focused on the strength of the entrepreneurship program, which is my intended focus.

    My questions are:
    1. My resume doesn’t seem to have any real wow factor in terms of full-time experience. While Deloitte is a recognized name, I feel like public accounting doesn’t compare to an entry-level position in consulting or banking. Plus, my post-MA experience is at a small firm without much brand recognition. How much will this hurt my chances of getting in?
    2. I’ve tried to brand myself as a person with a variety of international experiences and a macro (IR/economics) background seeking to build up my micro-level analytical skills. How competitive would I be for entrepreneurship, given that I have no practical experience starting my own firm?
    3. I would really like to attend a school with a great reputation both in the US and abroad (because I want to be able to find a good job in any part of the world). I feel like IE would be fine for abroad, but I wonder how reputable and valuable it is in the US. On the other hand, I think MIT would be very reputable in the US, but maybe not as much abroad. What are you thoughts?
    4. Would you advise me to
    - apply to any other schools?
    - shoot somewhere below HBS and MIT?

    Thanks so much for the insights you provide to MBA applicants on P&Q!

  • Slowburnz

    Hi Chioma,

    I have a question about how performance at work is evaluated. Do adcoms do research into prior jobs beyond what is in your recommendations? Is a bad experience at a previous job a deal-breaker (this job is with a ‘top’ firm that would otherwise be a big draw to adcoms)?

    I’m considering leaving early for another job, would someone call to find out i left on “bad terms”?

  • Santosh Halemani

    (I am posting again because I had posted this in a wrong place)
    Hi Chioma,
    First, Happy new year!
    I have a question on choosing schools. This post will help a lot of guys and gals who are in similar state.
    Here is my profile. I am from India. Profile is not that awesome but I want to start in Fall 2012. Time is less.
    I want to do General Management. Also, want to study how things work in Consulting and entrepreneurship.
    Work ex: 40 months(Software Development+Technical support at IBM India)
    I have decent extra curr. GPA is good 3.5. Age: 27
    Kinda low GMAT: 650
    I cant afford the top schools. And I am not too optimistc on the scholarships considering my “profile”.
    Please tell me how good are the schools ranked high on ‘value for money’ on ft.com.
    Here is my affordable schools list. Its big list but please pick help me in narrowing it down.
    I can afford a maximum of 90000 USD. Including living and other expenses. I have choosen some 120K schools on hope of scholarships!

    1. Illinois Urbana( applying)
    2. Texas A & M University: Mays
    3. University of Florida: Hough
    4. University of Iowa: Tippie
    5. University of Georgia: Terry
    6. Brigham Young University: Marriott
    7. Wisconsin School of Business: Madison
    8. College of William and Mary: Mason
    9. Arizona State University: Carey
    10. Pennsylvania State University: Smeal
    11. Purdue University: Krannert
    12. Thunderbird School of Global Management
    13. University of California at Irvine: Merage(120K expense)
    14. University of South Carolina: Moore(120K expense)
    15. Boston College: Carroll
    16. University of Rochester: Simon
    17. Indiana University: Kelley(120K expense)
    18. University of Texas at Austin: McCombs(120K expense)
    19. Wake Forest University: Babcock
    20. Pepperdine University: Graziadio
    21. University of Maryland: Smith(130K)
    22. Boston University School of Management(120K)
    23. Vanderbilt University: Owen
    24. University of Notre Dame: Mendoza(120K)
    25. Emory University: Goizueta(120K)
    26. SMU: Cox
    27. Michigan State University (Broad)(120K)
    28. Tulane University (Freeman)
    29.Washington University – St. Louis (Olin)
    30. Case Western Reserve University (Weatherhead)
    31. George Washington University(120K)
    32. University of Pittsburgh (Katz)
    33. Rutgers University – Newark and New Brunswick
    34. Northeastern University(120K)
    35. University at Buffalo
    36. University of Missouri – Columbia (Trulaske)

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi Teeyah,

    First happy New Year! Hope 2012 ends up being a great year for you. Just got back from Africa and while lots of changes are happening, still a lot needs to be done. So applicants with an interest in returning to their home country to make a difference will continue to be of interest to MBA boards. Congrats on the Harvard Law admission. Regarding making the case for HBS, you need to be able to make a compelling case for why you can’t achieve your career objective with the JD degree. Spell out the business skills that you will need to draw on for your future career and connect it to what you have seen on the ground that demands for such a skill set. Academically, your application will be looked at favorably at HBS. Your story has to reveal significant self awareness: show how your engineering background in the oil space, your understanding of the region, plus the infrastructure needs, management requirements as well as a public/private partnerships will be crucial to successfully contribute to the region. Most importantly, for HBS, stress your leadership by demonstrating through your stories how you have lead/stepped up in multiple situations both personally, professionally, etc.

    One minor thing, though, not sure I would stress transitioning to government side as much as the management skills to lead across sectors….if govt is emphasized, then why not Kennedy School. Just a thought.

    All the best. We are happy to take a look at your essays offline should you wish to have a pair of eyes review ahead of your submitting them.

    Cheers,

    Chioma
    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi Gobolts,

    You are right, The Booth Program has historically been open to receiving additional info from waitlisted students. This new option to provide a 90 seconds video is a fantastic opportunity for waitlisted candidates to differentiate themselves. Thing about your brand. What was the key message points you shared with Chicago Booths? Was there a hole to your story? Is there a way to use the video to address that. I wouldn’t use the video to directly make a statement about why my grades were low or lower than average GMAT scores. Rather I would use the video strategically to highlight what is interesting about you…an accomplishment that is important to you that you may not have highlighted. Comb through your stories, review your personal brand thoroughly and then come up with a positioning for the video. The key is to not be boring and restate what they have already seen from your story. It may be worth having someone with admissions experience review your current app to Chicago to identify any gaps and then brainstorm a way to address them.

    Hope this helps and all the best.

    Chioma
    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Dear Enlisted Vet,

    It is common to see US vets transitioning into business via the MBA. In fact MBA.com has an article on military friendly schools. Admission to top schools like the ones on your list continue to be quite fierce so it may make sense to widen your list of schools. I’m also not sure how they will view the distance learning college. From my experience, schools have tended to be less keen on them though the perception of distance learning as second tier is less prevalent.

    Regarding your interest in GM, you can absolutely purse a general management career with an MBA from Tuck, HBS, Wharton or Yale. The China angle will come down to multiple factors such as recruiting opportunities, alumni strength in the region….find out where students are going. Wharton and HBS have very strong brands in Asia. Yale and Dartmouth to a lesser degree.

    Regards
    Chioma
    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi ThanksChioma,

    You asked about Custodian Banks and how MBA boards view them. They seem to be more administrative in nature. When issuing bonds, etc. they act more as a holding company and not really involved in the syndication or strategy. I’m unsure what exactly your strategic role has been there. If you are targeting a top ten program it may be worth considering a job change if it’s in line with your career plans.

    Best.

    Chioma
    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi DylanC
    The low GPA question is a real weakness. Fortunately, the GMAT OF 730 helps to some degree. HR experience is not very common but it wouldn’t necessarily be viewed as a plus for career change into finance. What will determine the success of your candidacy is the quality of experience you have had in the HR space. What was your role(s)? Have you had an accelerated career promotion/trajectory? Experience leading others? Impact at the firm and in your community? The richer the stories/examples that you have the more likely you are to appeal to the admissions board. You also need to find a subtle way to address the 2.8 which is significantly low compared to your competition.

    I would go for the schools you have on your list and perhaps add one or two more safety schools.

    All the best,

    Chioma
    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi International Guy,

    Thanks for your question and providing info on your background. Think of the evaluation from the adcom perspective. What reasons have you given them to “fall in love with your case”. If they have 20 Deloitte applicants and they can take two, why should you be one of the two they take? I wouldn’t focus too much on the brand of the firm but on the quality and impact you have had at your jobs. If you have done a reasonable job at your firm then assume it would be tough to stand out at top schools like HBS and MIT. If you have clearly gone beyond your job requirements to create an impact on projects or teams you have been on and your recs can back this up, then you will stand a chance.

    The entrep story is not compelling especially when you have not started anything in the past. Schools tend to be skeptical of entrep in the future with no evidence of entrep involvement.

    Regarding reputation of schools abroad vs in the US, think where you wish you build your career. If in the US then opt for schools that are better known in the US and vice versa for international options. I do think MIT has a strong brand both within the US and abroad. Obviously IE is big in Europe. Regardless of which options you select, don’t lose sight of the whole culture of the program. Stick with schools that fit with your brand…where you would thrive.

    Finally, in a super competitive admission world, I would expand beyond HBS and MIT. I do hope you achieve a favorable outcome from at least one of these schools!

    Chioma
    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi Slowburnz

    It depends. If you have been at a job for more than a year, they may be curious why you don’t have a recommendation from there. The longer you are at a place the more pressure there is for you to have a rec from there (it can be from someone other than your supervisor). If no one is able to vouch for you, then it raises all sorts of flags. We have had a few clients successfully overcome an initial bad first job and change jobs and successfully secure admission to the top MBA programs. You have to be very careful in navigating the process. If there is a chance to do some damage control before you leave your job, do so. There is always the chance that the schools will do their due diligence calls after admitting you and that can often involve calling previous places of employment.

    Feel free to reach out to us offline to provide more color on your situation.

    Best
    Chioma
    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi Santosh,

    I recommend you check out the P&Q list of top 100 US MBA programs to get a sense of some of the schools.

    You are right, a 650 and international candidate would be tough to pull off in terms of scholarships so I’m not sure how that would pan out. You may want to look at programs that are shorter in nature, for example Emory, USC, Kellogg and many other programs have one year programs worth pursuing which will help keep the MBA cost down.

    All the best!

    Chioma

    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • ahmed

    Hi Chioma,
    happy new year, wish u the best..some comments please on profile.:
    32 ys, UAE national, gmat 610, gpa 2.8 engineering, working for the government for 6 years in power project management and worked before 2 ys with private sector. recently promoted to participate in managing the privatization program of the sewage water sector. our scope is to find best way for partnership between public and private sectors to reach optimal and sustainable business model. when I look into yale mba curriculum I find it appealing to my current job requirements and future career path since I’ll be responsible for this process years ahead..however, when I look into their class profile I find it very difficult for me. do you think I have chance there? if not could you please name some good schools that I can target with orientation in public and non profit.

  • morgan12

    Hello Chioma,

    Thank you for the service you provide.

    GMAT: 700
    GPA: 3.65 from non target public college; also studied abroad in England for 1 year
    Work: 2 years at JPMorgan Commercial Bank, 2 years at GE Capital
    Age: 25
    Extras: fluent in 3 languages, volunteer for Habitat for Humanity, heavily involved member of cultural society, belong to two professional organizations, moved to the States at the age of 19 from England, first generation college graduate.
    Goal: Financial Management at large corporate

    Which programs do you suggest I apply to? I believe my weakness lies in my undergraduate school. What can I do to offset that?

  • ThanksChioma

    Thank you again, Chioma. That is right in line with what I expected, honestly, but it is incredibly helpful to hear it from someone with much more knowledge in this arena.

  • InternationalGuy

    Hi Chioma, thanks for taking the time to read my post and responding with your perspective. I will expand my horizons as you suggest – to the extent that I can get apps in before the round 2 deadlines!

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi Ahmed,

    Happy New Year to you too!

    I think Yale SOM will be a stretch with the 610/2.8 profile. I would consider trying to raise the GMAT score if possible. It’s extremely tough to overcome a low GPA/GMAT combo for full time MBA programs. You may want to consider an executive program and even in that case you should still try and raise the score. If scores remain the same then I recommend broadening list of options to beyond top 20-30 schools given average scores of these schools still in the mid to high 600s. It may be worth even considering executive programs that do not require GMAT scores. The quality of your work experience at the UAE would also be an important factor.

    All the best.

    Chioma
    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hello Morgan12,

    I’m not sure I see the concern for the undergrad grad (a 3.65 is ok). That’s assuming there wasn’t a huge dip at some point. If that was the case, then it’s worth addressing somewhere in the application. I’m not sure what your roles were both at JPM at at GE Cap but assuming in an analyst role or front office role, then fine. Schools also appreciate diversity of exp so your geographic diversity (from the UK) plus family background as first college grad and initiative to move to new country on your own at 19 could play in your favor when you apply. It comes down to how you present your story/brand.

    As for schools you may consider, I recommend that you do further research to get a feel for the schools that would be the best match for you given the variables you identify to be most important to you. Location may be important to you so you may not want to study in the West Coast so that takes out Stanford, Haas-Berkeley, Anderson and UCLA and Marshall at USC for example. You may not want to be taught in a primarily case environment so that eliminates HBS and Darden at UVA. You have to decide what the personal criteria are that you want in an MBA program.

    You may want to clarify your career plans in financial management when you apply as it is a broad term that can vary extensively depending on the context in which you work: from business analyst assisting with strategic analysis to working on gathering and preparing accounts. Specify whether you wish to go into asset management, investment banking, corporate finance, etc. and build a case for why you feel you need an MBA to get there.

    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • Evren

    Hello Chioma,

    Thanks for the great information. I’ve read every post of yours so far. Really enlightening.

    I’m a NON-EU European citizen:
    31 years old, male
    GMAT: 690 (Q:47, V:37)
    M.Sc.on Computer Science/Engineering from top college in the country, GPA: 3,80, graduated in 2010
    B.Sc. on Computer Science/Engineering, GPA: 2,93, graduated in 2002

    7 years of solid experience in the IT Industry as Software Engineer, Senior Software Engineer and Software Team Leader.
    Also have 1 year of entrepreneurship experience with a friend immediately after B.Sc. and 1 year of mandatory military service (did a leadership there also).

    I’m looking for a school in the US that sends most graduates to IT industry and has concentration on Technology/IT Management. Not necessarily a premium school but would be great to be in the Top 30. Also tuition is a big concern for me and i would need a “low cost /providing private loan without a US co-signer” type school.

    Which 3-4 schools would you offer me to apply according to my profile that i would have a great chance to get into?

    Thank you very much !

    Best Regards.

    Evren

  • Nishant

    Hello Chioma,

    I am an Indian citizen. My GMAT score is 700(Q87, V 73). My under grad was in engineering. B. Tech in IT from a mid-level school in India. I graduated top of my class and am a gold medalist in engineering.

    After college, I joined a top American bank in India. I spent 8 months setting up the Corporate Communications team with my manager and then moved to project mgmt. I have about 3 years of core experience in project mgmt and have delivered projects in multiple areas from branding projects, technology infrastructure projects to intelligent building projects. These have been extremely massive and some of them highly prestigious in the organization.

    I am now into asset mgmt consultancy for about a year in the same organization and very closely with our US team members.

    So overall close to 54 months of experience in which I’ve received some prestigious organizational awards.

    I speak Spanish(B2) and play corporate level football.

    My area of interest is private equity- VC and corporate strategy.

    I am right now shortlisting schools to apply to. My main targets are Dartmouth-Tuck, Berkley- Haas, IE, London Business School and Oxford-Said.

    Request you to please evaluate my profile and let me know my chances with the schools I have mentioned above.

    Thanks and Regards,
    Nishant

  • morgan12

    Thank you for your response.

    Ideally I would like to work on the west coast so it would be a good idea to apply to schools out there. Which schools would you suggest on the West Coast? However I would consider a school on the east coast which is known for it’s quantitative curriculum. Any suggestions? I know I have lots of research to do, but I’m looking for basic guidance based on your extensive experience.

    By financial management I meant business analyst assisting with strategic analysis and corporate financial decisions. An example would be HP financial analyst program.

  • Highwyre237

    Hi Chioma,

    GPA – 3.32 (Known for its business program, but mostly unknown, ranked around 50 regionally)
    GMAT – 680 (Retaking, hoping for 720+)

    I’m US Male white, will be 28 with around 5.5-6 years ex at matriculation (applying in 2013)

    Will have…
    Work
    3.5 years – IT Security Analyst (Fortune 100 retailer, should be promoted to senior analyst soon)
    1/2 year – Strategy Analyst (Small Internet start-up)
    1.5 years – Market Analyst (Large international Bank)

    Extra
    Co-founder of a small startup (really just handling the business/web side of an photo/jewelry business, still in the beginning stages, not sure if I should add it)

    In College
    Worked full time,
    2.5 years E-Marketing manager/ Assistant innkeeper at an Inn
    2.5 years as a math tutor.

    So with that info, still figuring out if I want Brand Management or Consulting after my MBA.

    Pretty my, I have a marketing undergrad, and lost focus out of school. I know I can tell a compelling story about my passion for consumer behavior, and the ways the marketing mix effects it, but there is still a chance I’d pursue consulting after my MBA.

    To summarize, an OK GPA from an unknown school, and strong companies, but no MBA breading grounds

    Goal is to live/work in NYC or Boston metro post MBA

    What are my chances at
    Northwestern (Kellogg)
    NYU (Stern)
    Cornell (Johnson)
    Virginia (Darden)
    Duke (Fuqua)
    Georgetown (McDonough)

    Thanks! Any other suggestions would be great too.

    PS. Any suggestions for the type of volunteering MBA programs like would be great, I have a full year and should be doing something on the side.

  • highwyre237

    Sorry my ug major was marketing minor finance. Strong in major gpa.

  • Teeyah

    Thanks Chioma for the advice and the great work in this forum

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi Evren,

    Thanks for your question. I would recommend looking at Tepper Business School at Carnegie Mellon, Kelley at Indiana U with loads of coursework in Operations and Decision Technology, and UT Austin’s McCombs program as well. There are others of course and I encourage you to invest time in researching other programs. You have to consider what geography you would like to be in, whether you want a small program or a larger one, etc.

    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi Nishant,

    I can’t say exactly what your chances of admissions will be for the schools you have indicated. I think the long term goal will be viewed with some skepticism by the adcom. The asset management consulting to corp strategy makes sense but I suspect the adcom will see the jump from project management to PE/VC as a big leap. You will need to tighten your career goal story when you apply.

    I don’t know the scale of your work, the actual impact you had, etc…so I’m taking your word for it that the experience has been extremely massive and highly prestigious….as long as your impact has been sizeable, can be confirmed by your superiors, you should be able to get into some of the programs you have identified. Your essays will also be very important and so don’t simply focus on being in the “ballpark” but on the quality of the essays and how/what it reveals about you both as a leader and an individual.

    All the best!

    Chioma

    Chioma@expartus.com
    EXPARTUS CEO

  • Bluesiege

    Hi Chioma,

    Thank you for spending some time answering our questions. I’ll try to be brief: my main worry is my below average GMAT (especially quant) and my average GPA for the schools I’m shooting for. Can you tell me what are you think my odds of acceptance are?

    Here is my profile:

    About me — 27 male from West Africa (came in the US at 16 for College)
    GMAT — 690 (69% Quant, 89% Verbal)
    GPA — 3.5 Computer Science from reputed engineering school. Took 5 years to graduate due to english lessons and a transfer.
    Work Experience — 6 years, started as Software Engineer then Project Manager role in a top software company for a #1 consumer product in its category (think Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple….)
    Extra Curricular — Member of a committee for a known non-profit for 8 months, Volunteer yoga instructor at a community center, Real estate investor. In college: VP of Entrepreneurship Club, President of yoga club, Secretary of an Engineering club.
    Short-term Goal — Transition to Product Management in tech to get more business exposure
    Long-term Goal — Return to Africa to create a tech company as part of the family business group, then lead it to eventually become its CEO.

    Schools applied to: Wharton, Columbia, Booth.

    As I said, my GMAT quant is my main concern. I bombed that part of the exam and given that I work 60-70 hrs/week I couldn’t retake it in time (I opted not to mention that in my apps as it could be equated to whining). I don’t know if working for a top software company will help alleviate that concern but I asked my recommenders to highlight my technical skills. My GPA is nothing spectacular either (it’s also 3.5 within my major).

    Your candid response would be greatly appreciated!

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi Bluesiege,

    Your concern is a legitimate one but I would look at the entire application not just one component. So Wahrton, Columbia, and Booth tend to like to see high scores in the GMAT. The 690 is a bit low.(Chicago may accept new score so retaking may not hurt). You could also bring this up in an interview for the other schools if the score is higher.

    The silver lining is that you are not coming from a soft major but Comp Sci with a 3.5 (not bad), so you should be in the running still. The way to think of a candidate in your situation is to look at exactly the impact, role at software company. Top brands like Google/Apple help and project manager role can be great if you can show evidence of leadership, strong responsibility managing beyond your expected level, etc. The Xcs seem ok, not necessarily going to wow them. But the make or break of your story will likely be how you connect your career goals to where you are now and whether they buy it. Product management in tech space and creating tech company as part of your family group is credible….of course depends on how big the fam biz is already. All the best and hope you get an invite for interviews.

    I’m hosting a free interview webinar. You can sign up at: https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/947000081

    Chioma Isiadinso
    EXPARTUS (www.expartus.com); chioma@expartus.com
    Helping You Gain Admission to Top Schools

  • JMG

    Hi, How are my chances?

    GPA 8.5/10
    Gmat 690
    Nationality Mexican
    Age 27
    Work experience 5yr
    Current Job Citigroup (entered as a Trainee in their talent oriented program)
    Organized last year social activity with the bank by donating and building a house to a homeless family through the NGO I brelong to
    Year abroad after Highschool doing pro-bono work in a youth Club in Europe
    Lived in 5 different countries
    College scholarship and exchange program scholarship
    While college attended for 6 years missions in rural communities in my country during easter
    Captain of the soccer team in my workplace.

    Thanks!

    Aplying to
    Harvard
    Stanford
    Tuck
    Kellogg

  • CSBHopeful

    Hi Chioma,

    I received my decision from Columbia today stating that they were not able to offer me a place in the Fall 2012 class. They did state, however, that given my strong professional background, career aspirations (entrepreneurship), and personal profile, the committee thinks I’d be a better fit for the January 2012 program and are encouraging me to apply again for that program. They also state that this is not a guarantee of admission, but reiterate that they encourage me to apply.

    My question to you is whether this is a standard response in hopes of getting another application fee from me, or if this is reason to believe I stand a good chance for admission?

  • Bluesiege

    Chioma,

    Thank you for your quick response!
    Looking forward to your webinar, I hope I’ll have an invitation for an interview by then.

  • Francisco

    Hi Chioma,

    Thank you so much for offering your expert opinion. I’m a non-traditional applicant (34 years old, from central america) to the 2-year full-time MBA programs, and I would like to get some expert feedback on my chances of gaining admittance to my list of target schools. First, some background:

    - 34 year old male, International applicant from Central America

    - 730 GMAT

    Education:
    - 2.7 Bachelor’s GPA from Tulane University, majored in mechanical engineering and minored in math (I tried to complete the double major but was overwhelmed with course load, GPA suffered as a consequence. Also, had problems with culture shock during my first year)
    - 3.45 Master’s GPA in Industrial Engineering (Operations Research) from a top 10 program in industrial engineering at U. of Wisconsin-Madison
    - 3.51 part-time Master’s GPA in Finance from a Private Honduran University
    - 3.7 GPA from alternative transcript consisting of accounting and math courses (financial accounting, calculus sequence and linear algebra) taken online from UC-Berkeley extension and UT-Austin

    Professional History:
    - 1 year as a mechanical engineer at one of six sugar factories operating on a national level
    - 1.5 years as mid-level manager at top industrial gas producer
    - 2.5 years working as project engineer in construction family business, construction industry collapsed due to international financial crisis, transferred to finance after completing my master’s in finance
    - 2 years as corporate credit analyst at a top 3 bank in Honduras (where I’m currently employed)
    - Board member at two different investment firms

    Extracurriculars:
    - Italian Language courses
    - Weekend Volunteer at local public hospital, mostly fund-raising
    (To be honest, extra-curricular activities are very limited in this country due to rampant crime [murder capital of the world!])

    Goal:
    - Family is heavily invested in the bank where I’m currently employed. Bank suffers from poor organizational strategy, insufficient investment in technology, and aggressive competitors. It also needs to modernize risk management processes. I’m poised for high management position in near future if I prepare myself. Would love to be part of the team that modernizes the bank, makes it more competitive. Also, eventually, I would like to open up my own production/manufacturing business.

    Targets:
    - Wharton
    - Chicago
    - Northwestern
    - MIT
    - Dartmouth
    - Yale
    - London Business School
    - INSEAD

  • SanketMali

    Hi,

    Thanks a lot for guiding us by evaluating our profiles. I really appreciate if you put your views on my profile in terms of Strengths and weaknesses and advise me how can best utilize next 9 months ( till R1 deadlines)

    Education
    B.E. Production – Aug.2005 – First Class with Distinction from Pune University (Top15) Universities in India. Continual improvement trend First year to Final year!

    GMAT – Yet to be taken! Expected – 700 minimum.

    Professional Experience
    1. Operation Consulting – 2.5 years in boutique consulting firm in India – Handled Lean manufacturing implementation assignments at 9 clients including Honda India – Productivity improvement of at least 8% in all assignments – Managed a cross functional team ( CFT) of 5 people
    Highlight – CFT management/ Leadership, Cost saving

    2. Mahindra Chakan – 2.5 years as an Industrial Engineer – Manpower planning for biggest Greenfield project of Mahindra – Estimating manpower requirement – Interviewing, Recruiting ,Training of 180 workmen. Single handedly coordinated a team of 180 workmen and 21 officers in implementing MAPS (Mahindra Advanced Production System) at Shop floor. Cost Saving of $120,000
    Highlight – Analytical work in manpower planning, Team Leadership, Cost saving, Top 20% performance rating

    3. Volkswagen India ( CURRENT JOB) – 1.5 years till date (3 years till I start MBA) – Lean Manufacturing and Productivity improvement – Leading a 12 member CFT and Multicultural team for Productivity improvement – Manpower reduction of 105 workmen resulting in cost saving of $408,000
    Highlight – Analytical work, Team Leadership, significant Cost saving, Top 5% performance rating

    Extracurricular
    1. Volunteering – Cofounded a 20 member volunteer group in Jan 2008 – Provide volunteer support to 2 other NGOs in India – Volunteering 2 hours /weeks since inception
    2. Writing – Published 01 case study as a Consultant – Published 02 articles in leading Indian newspapers – Published 01 article in Mahindra newsletter – Stood 4th in an online ‘Love Letter’ writing competition – Currently writing a book which will be published in May 2012.
    3. Meditation – Competed two 10 day rigorous Vipassana Meditation courses (14 hours/ day meditation with only lunch and Breakfast) – practicing meditation 45 minutes/ day for last 08 years.

    Career Goals
    Short term – With a strong base in Manufacturing now with Management consulting I want to understand the correlation of Manufacturing with other business functions such as Marketing, Finance, HR.

    Long term – Leading an Indian multinational Automobile organization in expanding operations globally – Help an organization implementing the strategy of ‘Reverse Innovation’

    Target Schools – Application fall 2012.
    Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, Tuck, LBS.

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi CSB Hopeful,

    I can imagine how frustrating it must be to get the decision of a denied admission after working so hard. If I were in your situation, I would not make an immediate decision right away regarding whether to apply again to Columbia or even business school. Take a few weeks off from this whole process to gain a fresh perspective. Then come back and revisit the question of whether to reapply. Some questions that are worth considering are:
    1) Is the MBA absolutely necessary for your career goals of entrepreneurship? Some may even argue that it isn’t but that is a personal decision you have to make. Take a look at this cool blog that talks about testing out your entrep plans before committing two years to going for the MBA: http://blog.profitably.com/post/7134922299/the-ultimate-6-week-startup-crash-course
    2) There are many great programs where you can be well prepared for a successful career—whatever that ends up being. I’m not convinced that there is only one school in the world for someone—the same way I don’t believe that there is only one person in the world for a person. Don’t fixate on one school but stay open to the many great programs that produce/cultivate entrepreneurs. Many include MIT, Haas, Chicago, etc. Of course I understand that the driver for you may be some strong ties to New York City.
    3) Finally, regarding your question about whether Columbia is yanking your chains, I don’t think so. I don’t think they necessarily encourage everyone to reapply, especially for the Jan program….so I would seriously consider it if it fits within what you want (you will forfeit the summer internship opportunity). That said, however, don’t take their invitation to mean it’s a shoo-in. You will still have to make a strong case that it makes sense for you and for them. We will be sharing loads of feedback on how to reapply successfully shortly on our site so stay tuned: http://www.expartus.com.
    I wish you great success regardless of the decision you end up with. Key thing is to listen to your heart and follow your gut! All the best.

    Chioma (chioma@expartus.com)

    EXPARTUS
    Helping You Gain Admission to Your Top Schools
    http://www.expartus.com

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi JMG,

    Thanks for your question. I don’t know enough about your work experience (where you worked prior to Citi, and also what exactly your role is at Citi). Schools value diversity so the Mexican background wouldn’t hurt. 690/8.5/10 is ok. Higher GMAT would be a plus but if the 690 is as good as it gets, I wouldn’t worry too much about it but would focus on showing fit between yourself, goals, and the schools, plus make sure to showcase your impact at Citi, in college and everywhere you have been. Pro bono work doesn’t hurt either so it’s good to have some that you are genuinely proud of and committed to. Workplace soccer/team stuff is neutral—you get zero value from that usually.

    Candidates like you can get into one or more of the schools on your list if you execute the application effectively by revealing a compelling personal brand that shows leadership, interpersonal character that jives with the kinds of people that the school is looking for. The caliber and impact of your work experience will also be put to the test so spend enough time reflecting on and communicating what is distinctive about your work. If you feel it isn’t compelling (you don’t have enough examples to call on when addressing your essays), you may want to delay your application for a year and focus your attention on improving this area before applying. If the opposite is the case and you have tons of leadership impact/involvement at your job, then this is likely the right time to apply.

    Either case, I wish you great success with your future. Let me know how it goes.

    By the way, I’m hosting a free interview webinar February 1st. You can sign up at: https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/947000081

    Chioma (chioma@expartus.com)

    EXPARTUS
    Helping You Gain Admission to Your Top Schools
    http://www.expartus.com

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hi Francisco,

    Think of the shopper who goes to a car dealership to buy a car and he’s expecting to get a car for 30K. The sales person shows him a car that is 50K. The shopper will likely have a negative reaction immediately to the sticker shock of the price tag, right? Well it’s the same way for admissions board members. They open a folder, and glance at the transcript or application where your grades/gpa shows up and they see a 2.7 from a non-Ivy School. The immediate reaction, instinctively, wouldn’t be favorable. But that doesn’t mean that the deal is off. Good sales men/women can overcome their customer’s resistance and get someone to pay 50k for a car when they were planning to pay much lower. You get where I’m going with this. You can overcome the initial concern about your 2.7 to still land an admissions offer from one or more of the schools on your list.

    The how is what’s important. There isn’t a magic bullet but will require a careful assessment of your entire brand, rationale for the degree, personal qualities that make you “YOU”. So it’s good that you have a masters degree with decent grades, that helps. But what will be more powerful in closing the deal would be the strength of your essays, whether they reveal maturity, clarity of focus, self awareness, etc. You then need to show that you have delivered results both at the sugar factories, industrial gas firm, and bank where you are currently working. Show how these disparate experiences are part of “the plan” as opposed to you “being all over the place” and you will be one step closer to your goal of receiving an admission offer.

    Your recommenders will also play a vital role in your success so choose them wisely, coach them effectively (don’t write the recs!!). I dedicate a chapter in my book, The Best Business Schools’ Admissions Secrets to the recommendation letters and how to approach recommenders, what to say to them to get the right recs, how to prep them, etc.

    Best,

    By the way, I’m hosting a free interview webinar February 1st. You can sign up at: https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/947000081

    Chioma (chioma@expartus.com)

    EXPARTUS
    Helping You Gain Admission to Your Top Schools
    http://www.expartus.com

  • USNA 08

    Hi Chioma,

    I appreciate all of your help. Coming from a military background, I was hoping you could help me narrow down my choices of top schools to apply.
    I’m a Naval Academy grad, with 4 years work experience as a Naval Intelligence officer. Spending two years leading 10+ sailors at sea/deployed, and two years working for a 3-letter agency in DC.
    Have a 3.2 GPA, and 720 GMAT. Was a varsity athlete, and graduated with an BS in Economics.
    I am considering applying to:
    HBS
    Wharton
    CSB
    Stern
    McDonough

    Which of these is best suited for my background, what are my odds (respectively), and are there any others which you would reccomend?

    Thanks!

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/chioma-isiadinso/ Chioma Isiadinso

    Hello SanketMali,

    Thanks for your question.

    Strength:
    Your manufacturing, project management experience will be viewed favorably by the admissions board. The academics is a plus as well since schools want smart individuals who can do the work and thrive.
    Industry and experience that is interesting/diverse is a plus: Mahindra Chakan is a leading auto company that is doing interesting stuff in the trucking/auto space….IS THERE A WAY TO HIGHLIGHT ENERGY EFFICIENT INITIATIVES THERE AND WERE YOU INVOLVED? WOULD BE INTERESTING! The hr/cost reduction stuff is fine; and the Volkswagen productivity experience would be viewed favorably…talk to the differences in working for Mahindra vs Volkswagen…insights, show impact….

    Weakness:
    The dollar figures of savings—don’t immediately jump out as wow compared to some of your competition. Having said that, it is important to address the context so the reader understand what makes the 120K distinctive…

    Neutral:
    Lots of times applicants have volunteer involvement. Where you stand apart is showing how your involvement has transformed the organization you are part of. The fact that you started it could be great—but again, it comes down to exactly what it did/does…how it is affecting the lives of the people you serve. If you can clearly show this, then this gets bumped to a strength.

    Meditation is neutral…The writing could be interesting….if you have a genuine love of writing and can show consistent involvement and even awards in this space (minus the love letter competition unless that is part of an intentional brand message you are trying to communicate)

    Your goals seem realistic. It will come down to the actual breadth of responsibility—they will peel the onion to see if there is really solid evidence of leadership/initiative/impact in your positions…don’t forget to also bring out the personal side—who you are as a person, your family, where you grew up and how all these things have shaped you and reinforce your brand….

    Best!

    By the way, I’m hosting a free interview webinar February 1st. You can sign up at: https://www1.gotomeeting.com/register/947000081

    Chioma (chioma@expartus.com)

    EXPARTUS
    Helping You Gain Admission to Your Top Schools
    http://www.expartus.com

  • Morgan

    Dear Chioma, I was wondering if you could briefly assess my profile for me – which points I should emphasize to the adcom, and how I should explain the weak points in my application.

    2.9GPA at a Public Ivy
    720GMAT
    Japanese private equity fund manager, 3 years (final title: VP)
    2 years at bulge-bracket investment bank, associate
    Volunteered in an earthquake-stricken areas
    Goal: create and run a social-orientated entrepreneurship post MBA
    Support for goal: dedicated much of my career to doing finances for the World Bank and JICA, turning around and developing industries that would potentially become the economic backbone of cities in Japan.

    In addition, are my goals and credentials aligned with the schools that I’d like to apply to?
    These are Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Wharton, LBS, Yale and Columbia.
    I’m also a little concerned about demographics, as a Japanese applicant, would I be disadvantaged since I would belong to a very large demographic group (Asia)? Could there be anything I could pay attention to in order to stand out from the group?

    Thank you very much, I appreciate your taking time to answer my questions!

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