Poets and Quants

What Happens When You Apply To Booth

by John A. Byrne

Ahlm says the interview is the candidate’s opportunity to highlight your skills and personality in ways that a written application cannot. Be prepared to discuss your strengths and development areas, but also understand that the interviewer especially wants to get to know you as a person. He or she wants to understand how you can contribute to the Booth community. Ahlm suggests that you review your application before walking into an interview. You should show up early so you have some time to collect your thoughts, dress in business attire and bring a copy of your resume.

“Know how you will want to convey your story, your career plan and your unique goals,” he suggests. “If your goals and motivations are clear, you can expect a lively conversation and lots of good questions by the interviewer. You should also use the interview as an opportunity to learn more about Booth. There will be time at the end of the interview for you to ask your interviewer questions. You should have a few questions ready to find out about the things that are most important to you and your MBA experience.”

Interviewers grade the candidates on the same one to six scale. Once the interview report comes in, the file is then given to another admissions director who has not yet seen it. That person does an assessment of the entire file, deciding whether to admit, deny, or put the decision to a committee of the six admissions directors and Ahlm. “The committee process is an opportunity for us to all take a group of very talented people and sit down as a collective and have a discussion of the merits of the application,” explains Ahlm. The committee meets for two or three days to go over these applications, quickly rendering decisions after a full discussion of the applicant’s file.

ULTIMATELY, EVERY ADMIT OR DENY DECISION BELONGS TO AHLM.

All admit and deny recommendations go to Ahlm for final decisions. It’s rare for him to override a recommendation, but every year there are several cases where he may turn a deny into an admit or an admit into a deny. As the only person in the process who reads every application, he is now looking to craft a diverse and varied class of incoming students. “No one is denied until Kurt denies them,” says Kole. “So he never reverses a deny. He has a recommendation from several readers, but he owns that decision.”

An example of a recent decision in which Ahlm effectively overruled a recommendation? Says Ahlm: “I had a candidate that I was looking at the other day. There were elements of the application in which the story wasn’t as tightly knit together as the student and my staff would have liked, but there were elements in the application that suggested to me the candidate had great self awareness and good intellectual curiosity. Maybe the applicant didn’t necessarily understand Booth to the degree that I would have liked. But I saw attributes that jumped off of the application and made me think this person could be really successful here. At the end of the day, we not only want to get people who are very talented. We also want them to fundamentally fit with the culture here.”

What exactly is “fit?” Adds Kole, “You have to be someone who is comfortable making up your own mind and taking ownership for your decisions. That is a critical part of drinking fully from this experience.” That’s because there is only one required course at Booth. Unlike Harvard or Wharton, there is no first-year core curriculum in which you take as part of a cohort of other students. You pick and choose your courses based on your experience and interests.

Martinelli, who was admissions director for more than five years until moving to the overall university’s department of admissions last year, puts it this way: “You come to Booth as an adult. You build and leverage on your past successes. You don’t come in as good. People are like CEOs of their own experiences here. At Wharton, that core could kill you or bore you. Here, you don’t have that. You’re responsible for your education.”

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  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/redpoet/ Red Poet

    Great piece, very helpful. Makes me wonder, of course, which schools use more “holistic” admissions processes, and which mostly just care about whether you’ve hit their target GMAT or not.

  • Jeff

    From what I’ve seen, every school claims that they use a “holistic” process, and that OTHER schools use cutoffs and other blunt tactics. No admissions officer wants to admit that they don’t spend an hour on an application when someone submits a GMAT score of 580, but it’s hard to imagine that they really give that application as much attention as the one with a 780 GMAT score…

  • http://poetsandquants.com/members/redpoet/ Red Poet

    Jeff, I suspect you’re right; however, having knowledge of the law school admissions process, and seeing schools that actually did consider the totality of your app (assuming that your LSAT score met a certain standard of credibility) versus schools that were straight-up numbers lovers (and I really want to use a stronger word there), I wonder if a similar dichotomy exists for b-schools. I assume that it does, and I’m curious to know which schools. Who wants to pay $250 if it’s a waste of time, you know?

    Oh why can’t b-schools exist in a market with perfect information? (Sad face goes here.)

  • Jeff

    >> versus schools that were straight-up numbers lovers (and I really want to use
    >> a stronger word there)

    Ha ha… I know exactly the word you want to use there! :-)

  • tea

    Why does Booth have such a low yield %?
    How does it compare to other top schools?
    Why do so many admitted students not want to go there?

  • Buffy

    Unfortunately this article doesn’t unveil anything surprising about the admissions process. Adcom throwing in words like “sparkle” (what?) and “fit” are vague terms that read like horoscopes – applies to everyone, but still doesn’t give you the info you need. I still believe that all top schools’ adcoms utilize a lot of “tried-and-true” techniques but are unwilling to admit to, for instance, high gmat, gpa, blue-chip work experience, as opposed to the fluctuating qualitative and soft methods they are preaching.

  • Boothapp

    Great article – very insightful. One clarifying question: The article mentions the interviewer “uses the same one to six grading scale.” Does that mean they also read the entire application after the interview? Just curious.

  • Navin

    Can’t really comment on the fair/holistic nature of the admissions committee, but I just wanted to say that I met Kurt Ahlm while he was hosting Booth’s InfoSession in Thailand and was an absolute pleasure to talk to. He answered questions that were not only about academics but also the student life, sports etc. [That man knows his sports, and as a sports enthusiast, it was very refreshing!]

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