Handicapping Your MBA Odds

by John A. Byrne on

He’s a 26-year-old African American in a leadership rotational program at a leading corporation. With a 710 GMAT and a 3.1 grade point average, he believes an MBA degree will help him achieve his goal of becoming a senior executive in a Fortune 100 company.

An Eagle Scout, this 27-year-old software engineer at General Dynamics had led several technical teams on critical assignments. With a 720 GMAT and a 3.7 GPA, he wants an MBA to assist his transition into technology consulting.

He’s a professional rock climber who has scaled many big peaks in the Himalayas. A market research analyst on the clean tech industry for Bloomberg, this 26-year-old is hoping the MBA degree will allow him to transition to a top strategy consulting job.

Sandy Kreisberg, HBS Guru, in Harvard Square

Sandy Kreisberg, HBS Guru, in Harvard Square

What these MBA candidates share in common is the goal to get into one of the world’s best business schools. Do they have the raw stats and experience to get in? Or will they get dinged by their dream schools?

Sanford “Sandy” Kreisberg, founder of MBA admissions consulting firm HBSGuru.com, is back again to analyze these and a few other profiles of actual MBA applicants who have shared their vital statistics with Poets&Quants.

As usual, Kreisberg handicaps each potential applicant’s odds of getting into a top-ranked business school. If you include your own stats and characteristics in the comments, we’ll pick a few more and have Kreisberg assess your chances in a follow-up feature.

(Please add your age and be clear on the sequence of your jobs in relaying work experience. Make sure you let us know your current job.)

Sandy’s tell-it-like-it-is assessment:

Mr. Fortune 100

  • 710 GMAT
  • 3.71 GPA
  • Undergraduate degree in business and accounting from a private liberal arts college
  • Work experience includes three and one-half years in a leadership rotational program at a Fortune 100 company; in such areas as financial planning & analysis, corporate accounting and treasury
  • Extracurricular involvement as a mentor to high school seniors; led a finance workshop for minority teens
  • Goal: To become a senior executive in a Fortune 100 corporation; also “would like to improve the financial literacy of the entire free world”
  • 26-year-old, African-American male, first generation college graduate

Odds of Success:

Harvard: 40+%
Stanford: 35+%
Wharton: 45+%
Chicago: 50+%
Kellogg: 50+%
Carnegie Mellon: 60+%
Michigan: 60+%
Columbia: 50+%
New York: 60+%

Sandy’s Analysis: Hey buddy, this one is easy since you touch all the stations of the cross: GPA (3.71)-GMAT (710)-Fortune 100 Rotational Program and Fortune 100 Job (after that)-Black-Do Gooder.

Guys like you get admitted and dinged at HBS and Stanford depending on serviceable execution and recommendations, and not screwing up the interview at HBS.  As noted here often, the Stanford interview barely counts and was implemented as outreach to their under-employed alums (who do them)  and because candidates wanted it — so a two-fer for the adcom,  with nobody interviewing nobody as far as they are concerned.

You are also strong at Wharton although the interview process there is slightly more serious. The new “Zen” HBS app is a gift to you since you can use your financial literacy campaign as one answer and then come up with some “work” story for the other. I’d combine the first-gen college angle into the financial literacy story. At schools like Chicago, Kellogg, Tepper, Ross, Columbia it should just be a matter of convincing them you want to come.

“Universal financial literacy” is a great banner to fly, though I would not make it the centerpiece of your long-term goals. All that said, you got a solid and tight story and if your Fortune 100 company gets behind you with detailed and enthusiastic recommendations, you should have great success in this process.

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  • SECcess

    Hey Sandy, appreciate the advice.

    Age: 26
    GPA: Undergrad in Accounting – 4.0, Masters in Accounting – 4.0 (Both at a large SEC state school)
    GMAT: 720
    Work Experience: 1 year in Big 4 Public Accounting, have an early promotion on my resume (year earlier than typical ladder). Currently, 2 years in investment management at a large institutional mezz debt fund.
    Certifications: CPA, CFA Level 3 Candidate (have passed all tests on first try)
    Extracurriculars: Extensive community service in both college and post college. Multiple leadership positions within fraternity at school. Compete in triathlons and on multiple sports teams (both during and after school). In school, competed in multiple case studies (winning best on campus, Top 10 in country). 
    Goals: Transition to strategy/corp dev position within a F100 firm

  • TA

    Hi Sandy,
    Any insight into my chances would be greatly appreciated.Age 28+(29 at matriculation)Indian MaleGMAT 730
    Undergrad:Major:Bachelor of Science in Electrical EngineeringFirst 2 years in India (with first class w/ distinction grades)Junior and Senior years at University of Illinois Urbana Champaign (ranked #2 after MIT for my discipline , very competitive rigorous program) GPA at U of I: 3.05( I had my priorities wrong and partied more than I should have instead of focusing on an extremely challenging programs….but it was a great experience…I had a near MBA experience in terms of interacting and living and socializing with people from every part of the world)
    Graduate School:
    Major: Master of Science in Operations Research at University of Texas Austin (again very highly competitive and quantitatively rigorous program) Received fukk funding for graduate school by working as a teaching assistant and a research assistant. Wrote a masters thesis.Graduate GPA: 3.5
    Work Experience:
    1 year after undergraduate at University of Illinois,Urbana Champaign:Lab of optical physics and engineering as a design engineer.6 months at a highly renowned tech start up company on Wall St in New York City as an design engineer. (I had to leave this job because of visa issues: I’m not an American or a green card holder)
    Semester internship during graduate school with Marriot hotels in pricing and revenue management and forecasting.
    Presently working for over 2 years as a pricing scientist in a mid size Texas based consulting firm.( Most senior managers in this firm are PhD’s or masters degree holders. Some of them believe business school is  a joke)
    Objective to go to business school: 
    I want the experience.I want to get involved in technology based start up companies.
    Target Schools: I’m not sure how I place because my grades arent stellar but I have always fought it out at very competitive programs neither of which had any grade inflation.
    Booth
    Kellog
    Ross
    Tuck (EA)
    Haas
    Sloan
    Tepper
    Insead
    Personal interests include focused dedication to fitness and nutrition over the last 10 years.Very affable person with great interpersonal skills .

  • iHope

    Hi Sandy, your thoughts on how my profile would hold up at H/S/W/K/Chicago/Yale/Virginia. Thanks in advance.

    Age 31 ( dang could I reverse the clock !! )
    Indian Male
    Gmat 710
    Here’s a timeline of what I have done academically and professionally
    Undergraduate Major : Electronics, Bachelor of Engineering  GPA : we don’t have GPA so 60%
    Post-graduate Course in Software Technology : This was an extremely rigorous fulltime course from which only 10 / 120 graduated successfully. Have great grades here.

    5 Year of fantastic work ex as a techie in IBM starting as software engineer and working up to application architect
    Plenty of work achievements
    * Was rated 1 ( best ) in the department for 4 years
    * Mentored and lead teams which won awards
    * Started and lead initiative that saved a lot of money on software licensing costs
    * Created high impact,cost saving reporting solution for C-suite execs, heavily appreciated.
    * Won projects beyond scope of work creating new revenue line.

    Followed this up with a full time EMBA from an Indian university Majoring in operations. Ours was the founding batch and couldn’t quite leverage this to a great career shift. Have great grades while graduating.

    Currently working with PwC as a supply chain sr.consultant aligned again to technology domain. Have won award and client commendation.

    Community work includes : Worked with education sector NGO

    Short term goals : Moving into management consulting ( need that diverse, abbreviated exposure to multiple businesses and models )

    Long term goals : Lead a high impact enterprise that positively impacts lives in India and beyond.

  • anotherlawyer

    Hi Sandy, big fan of your insights here.  I’m a lawyer looking to go to business school and am curious about your thoughts.

    GMAT: 750
    GPA: 3.6 from Top 50 Northeast liberal arts, econ and government majors
    Law School: Top 14–DCNG, median grades
    Work Experience: 2 years in East Coast state AGs office doing regulatory enforcement, and currently at a solid, but not well known civil litigation firm where I have been for 1 year.  Law school internships with a U.S. Senator and a U.S. Attorney’s office.
    Extracurriculars: varsity athlete in college, Habitat spring break trips, president of student club in law school, coached high school sports team while working for AG’s office, volunteer with congressional and gubernatorial campaigns, avid sailor
    Goals: Go into management consulting or F100 management program to learn best practices and gain business/finance experience, then transition into public-sector or non-profit executive management, possibly in energy or financial regulation.  (I like some things about law, but it is not a good fit overall because it is too much of a support role and I want to be more involved in actual decision making and leadership of organizations.  Coming out of college, I was naive and fell for the idea that a JD is versatile and would be good for business in addition to law.  Applied to consulting firms after law school but no luck.  Will the lawyer stigma kill my chances at top schools?).
    Age: 28, white male
    Schools: HBS, Wharton, Sloan, Kellogg, Booth, Yale, Tuck, Cornell

  • Peman

    Dear Sandy,

    I hope to get insights in terms of my strength and weakness of mba application. 

    My background is as follows:

    Age: 30,Male,Asian
    Education: non-big name university with 3.4 GPAWork history:(seven years of working experience till now)1.Fortune 500 corporation(clean technology business), marketing professional 2.Enterpreneur of a boutique strategy consulting to serve the clean technology corporations(already sold this start-up company to our competitor with success)3. Domestic non-big name Private Equity professional within a focus on clean technology (with two deals will be listed on IPOs this or next year)TEST: GMAT(750,however took 5+ times within three years from initial score of 600 ),IELTS 7.0Application History: NoPowerful extras: Senior manager of local environmenntal protection fund; Sailing and rowing;Potential schools:UCLA/Hass/Stanford/LBS/Cornell/Chicago/Tuck/YaleCareer goal: Short-term, work as business development manager in a global leading clean technology company like GE to master the global business operation skill-sets like international M&A, global supply chain management and others.  Long-term, come back to my country and become a CEO of a leading clean technology in my country. Then,I leverage the global resorces to make  my country’s  clean technology manufacture capacities more cost-effective than before, better serving the client of my country and other emerging markets like ike India and Russia.

    From your opinion, What are my strengthenes and weakness in terms of my profile? And what strategy shall I leverage to use to differentiate myself from other Perfect applicants? (Like those with Big name undergraduate university+ Big name employers ,like KKR or Bain applicant ) . Also, what strategies shall I use to differentiate myself from other candidates with enterprener backgrounds and non-big name private equity experience? 

    What my chances of admission are in according to different schools? And in which areas can HBS GURU help me succeed and how ? Did HBS GURU help any applicant enter top 15 MBA programs who has similar backgrounds with me? 

  • Peman

    Dear 
    Sandy , what is the difference between your company and other ones(like MBA Exchange)

  • DefyingGravity

    GMAT: 700+ (expected)

    Bachelor’s degree in
    biology from Ivy League college with 2.99 GPA. GPA
    has slightly upward trend, but I wasn’t dedicated to my academics during
    college. I grew up as a Jehovah’s Witness, and I viewed college as 4
    years to “be normal,” to experience as much as I could, and to
    ultimately figure out what direction my life would take. I recently took
    one class to build an alternative transcript (earned 4.0)

    Maintained solid internships throughout college to help pay for tuition,
    and held a few small leadership roles in sorority. Gained proficiency in a foreign
    language and studied abroad. Since college, I have held a “do-gooder”
    volunteer position that creates a good story with my personality and
    career goals. Before applying to b-school, I think I can add a small
    leadership position to my volunteer experience.

    Work experience: Currently
    working in ed tech. The
    company doesn’t have a well-known name, but getting my position is very
    competitive. Since college graduation, have only had one job, and I
    plan to stay at this company until applying to b-school. I’ll have very
    solid recs.

    Target Programs: I’m open to feedback, since I know my GPA is a major
    weakness. My dream schools would be Stanford, HBS, Tuck (Early Action), Fuqua, Johnson, and Darden. Do I stand a chance at any of these schools? I’ll apply to a couple of these schools through the Consortium.

    Post MBA: Continue to work at the
    intersection of education and business. The people in my company who
    have the jobs I want all have MBAs. I’d like to be an impactful leader within an
    innovative/disruptive education organization.

    Will be 26 with 4 years of work experience at matriculation
    Underrepresented US minority, female
    First in family to earn 4-year degree 

  • hbsguru

    DUNNO, I know what I do, I never worked with any other consultants and don’t know if they are better or worse, or wha???? Isnt that your job, as a prospective client, to find out which one works for you.  Don’t mean to be sassy, but I don’t do comparative selling vs. other consultants.  I just sell me.  I think you can get a pretty good idea of what I am like by this series and my website.  Speak to other consultants and read their websites.  Then decide.

  • NumberCruncher

    GMAT: 700+ (Expected)

    Education: Double Bachelor’s Degree:  Financial
    Mathematics, Economics, Minor: Statistics from a small private liberal arts school

    GPA: 3.57

    Work Experience: 3 years full-time including, 2 year rotational investment
    program for a blue chip asset management company (ex: PIMCO, Franklin
    Templeton, Fidelity, Vanguard), 1+ years as an investment analyst for the same
    company. Additional work experience: Solid internship research experience (2+
    years) at a mid-tier investment company (AUM: ~100 Billion) while in college.

     

    Volunteer/Extracurricular: NCAA Division II Varsity Track
    and Field all four years (team captain Senior year), played the violin for the university’s
    symphony, Vice-President of Student Investment Fund. Currently: Mentoring
    at-risk girls at a local middle school.

     

    Post MBA: Become a portfolio manager, specializing in
    institutional investment solutions, portfolio strategy and asset allocation. I
    have developed the quantitative skill set in Finance, as well as solid
    leadership and communication skills. I would like to merge the two, as there seems
    to be a need in the industry for people who can take the quantitative side of investments
    and develop asset allocation strategies that are feasible to clients. There
    needs to be more women leaders in the financial investment research field.

     

    Target Programs: Wharton, Columbia, NYU, U Chicago, MIT,
    Berkeley, Duke

     

    Profile: 25 years, Female, White

     

    Additional: Looking into a part-time 2 year Masters in
    Applied Mathematics program to strengthen the quantitative skill set since
    there are not a lot of women that understand this side of finance. Would this
    help give my candidacy a boost, especially if I’ll be 27 when applying?

     

    What are my strengths that I should emphasize in my
    application? What are my weaknesses (GPA is mediocre, even if it is more
    technical degree)
     

  • Ms. Non-Profit

    Hi Sandy,

    Would love you insight here.

    GMAT: 750

    GPA: 3.9 from top 15 school (non-ivy), Majored in History and Near East Studies

    Work Experience: Three years at a non-profit that designs and evaluates social programs. I work on a social entrepneurship/juvenile justice project. I also do development there and some budgeting/ finance work.

    Extra Curricular: Editor of History Journal, tutored low-income kids

    Profile: 24 white female, Interested in going to business school to pursue a career in social entrepneurship

    Potential weaknesses: Lack of quant background, on the young side. Do you think it would make a diference if I waited another year to apply? How about it I took some calc or stat classes?

    Targeted schools: Standford, Harvard, Kellogg, Booth, Berkely

  • sandyrivers

    Hi Sandy, thanks for making this stuff so fun to read! 
    GMAT: 710
    GPA: 3.5 
    Edu: UCLA, international relations/trade-esque major with senior thesis
    Work Experience: 2 years managing family business (3 years at matriculation) in organic health products. Experience with doing business in Asia and Canada. Natural/organic patented product that will change health/food industry in future (and this isn’t some obscure seed that will “cure” something miraculously, serious talk). Oversee accounting, marketing, strategy, operations, business development, etc. Small business but very profitable and efficient. Advertising/marketing internships with reputable agencies/clients in college but changed tracks due to parent’s illness. 
    Post MBA: Expand family business in short term to handle future expected growth and to compensate for parents’ lack of formal business education. Long term/on the side/hobby/life goals: start social enterprise and/or non-profit. Create a triple bottom line social enterprise would be ideal, so being in the natural products industry is actually pretty relevant. 
    Extracurricular: College: business fraternity leadership roles, a lot of charity/fundraising events. Post college: leadership position in a nonprofit (founders/past volunteers have gotten into Haas/Wharton/Stanford/MIT but they were all consultants) that generates funds for other nonprofits, try to engage young professionals/gen Y, using my marketing/social media skills. Also volunteer at another nonprofit that hosts large scale event once a year for Asian American nonprofits. Was invited to and attended an elite delegation of overseas immigrants by an Asian government. Lifelong member of cultural/immigrant associations. 
    Profile: 23 Asian female
    Potential weaknesses: Lack of quant background but taking online accounting class and 40V/48Q on GMAT. 
    Targeted schools: Stanford, Yale, Chicago, Kellogg, MIT, Haas, Columbia, UCLA, (but honestly, will take anything I can get, since not sure how heavily family business weights)

  • career switcher

    Hi Sandy,

    GMAT: 780GPA: 3.73
    Education: Northwestern University, graduated with honors in economics
    Graduate student at large at Uchicago Booth (taking night classes): 4.33 GPA so far, probably will have a 4.0 after current quarter.
    Work Experience: 3 years as Associate Economist at Federal Reserve, doing economic research and forecasting (original intent was to get a PH’D in economics, decided research wasn’t for me)
    Extracurricular: member of professional Hip-Hop Dance Company, volunteer in homeless ministry 
    Goals: Transition into management consulting, eventually get involved in policy work and politics
    Targeted Schools: Stanford, Harvard, Wharton, Columbia, Northwestern
    Profile: 24 year old Asian male

  • EFinSF

    Hi Sandy,

    Great column, would love to hear your feedback:

    Profile: 25 y/o white male, 1st generation immigrant from Ukraine

    GMAT: 750, 3.38 from UC Santa Barbara in Business Economics. College: leadership positions in fraternity, entrepreneurship organizations, winner of business plan competition, supported myself through school playing poker (is this helpful or harmful to my application?)

    Work Experience: 

    2 years at an e-commerce startup focusing on local. First sales person and #10 at the company, which grew to over 200. Pitched an idea to create a sales operations team, and was given an opportunity to start and manage a team of 14 sales operations coordinators. The team’s duties included managing CRM pipelines, internal networks (intranet and ESN), merchant loyalty programs, and account management.

    6 months managing all sales and marketing for a small (7 employees) enterprise collective-intelligence software company. Imagine crowd-sourced intelligence within major corporations. Responsible for the beta launch of a new product, bringing in and managing fortune 50 accounts.

    Post MBA: Create consumer facing technology company that improves/simplifies interaction with our environment in the travel/local space. Fascinated with decision science and how this can be applied to technology and commerce. More interested in improving the quality of life of the individual than navigating the politics and inefficiencies of the enterprise.

    Hobbies/Extra-curricular: rec-league ice hockey, volunteer at pet shelter, outdoor activities (hiking, camping, snowboarding, wakeboarding) 

    Target Schools: Stanford, Haas, UCLA Anderson, Kellogg, HBS, MIT

  • Anonymous

    Hi Sandy,

    You assessed my odds for b-school in the past year and I just wanted to give you a heartfelt thanks. With my non-traditional background, I thought applying was a shot in the dark. You gave me the confidence to apply this fall! So thanks again – I’ll let you know how it goes.

    Anon

  • Brainy Peace Corps

    Hi Sandy,

    I love your posts. I’d appreciate some feedback.

    25-year old American maleWhite/Chinese/Hawaiian mixGMAT: 800 (51, 51, IR-8, AWA-4.5<–barf, first time taking GMAT)BS-Chemical Engineering, GPA: 3.85MS-Bioengineering, GPA:4.00Both degrees from good-but-not-great state school (better known for football team)College leadership positions with chemical engineers' professional organization and fraternityWork experience:18 months bioengineering research (for master's degree). Co-authored a book chapter about bioengineering. Trained and led undergrads and a doctoral candidate. Good analytical thinking practice, but no opportunities to "move up."
    27 months with Peace Corps (current job). English education and community development in Ukraine. I have examples of organizing camps and clubs for Ukrainian schoolkids and even orphans. Good community involvement, but no opportunities to "move up." Pre-defined end date.

    Background info:
    The BS and MS were part of an accelerated program, kind of a packaged deal. Graduate bioengineering research was intellectually fulfilling, but I couldn't see my impact. It was great for my mind but not for my soul. After soul-searching, I decided to join Peace Corps for the high-impact work. Unfortunately, I don't get enough intellectual stimulation. Peace Corps is great for my soul but not for my mind.

    Career goals:
    I want an MBA to get into consulting, preferably with M/B/B though Monitor would be a good alternative. Although I want to end up in the US, I'd love to work in a M/B/B Moscow office for a while (I've learned Russian while in Peace Corps). There I would focus on business development, both for companies expanding to the CIS region and local companies interested in growth. Long-term, I want to move to social entrepreneurship, either consulting for social ventures (for-profit companies) or starting my own.

    Schools of interest:
    1. Kellogg (perfect school for me)2. Tuck3. BoothExtra. Harvard (a reach, and not necessarily more appealing to me than Kellogg) 

  • Brainy Peace Corps

    I don’t know why the formatting got screwed up. I apologize for that.

  • Ms. HK Banker

    Hi Sandy,
     
    Would appreciate your insight here:
     
    GMAT: 730+6
     
    Education: BS and MS in Economics from top Chinese universities, GPA 3.7, also studied in Switzerland and US.
     
    Work experience: two year investment banking in Hong Kong (three year by time of enrollment) mainly doing IPOs, received first promotion after joining the company for seven months and another significant pay raise after next seven months. Also starting up a small business with friends in parallel to the full time job
     
    Extra curriculum: six month internship in London, six month internship in Zurich. Two year leadership in university volunteer association. Competed on national TV for the university
     
    Goal: starting my own financial consultancy company
     
    Dream school: Stanford
     
    Profile: 27-year-old Asian female
     
    Thanks a lot!

  • cpb5026

    Sandy,  would earning a MS in Supply Chain Management hurt an application to an MBA program.  I can do the program through distance/part time education so it will not hurt work experience. 

  • DJW

    Sandy,
    I am a female-GMAT 660 GPA 3.9 with undergraduate degree in economics and modern danced. I danced for two years and then worked in international development at an NGO on the finance side. Really would like to transition to a corporate position but need to formalize my business education. Looking for corporate strategy in an international corporation. Any feedback would be great as I target MBA programs. Thank you.

  • MrCollege

    GMAT: 730
    Bachelors Degree: Economics from Public Ivy (UNC/UVA/UT/Michigan)
    Undergraduate GPA: 3.12
    Experience: Big 4 Management Consulting Consulting (Accenture/Deloitte)
    Focus on energy – some experience in aerospace and healthcare.
    Promotion received prior to application process.

    Extra Curricular:
    1. Help set up a program with my firm that works with a VC arm of my university – Supporting students who work with early stage companies as a part of their coursework.
    2. Lead recruiting for my firm within my major at my university.
    3. Member of an alumni organization that raises money through social events for diabetes research. Help manage the events during football games.
    26 year old white male

    Goal: To move into top 3 consulting or to work in VC – Hoping to focus on clean tech or software.

    Schools:

    HBS
    Wharton
    Kellog
    Booth
    MIT
    Columbia
    Stanford (do I even have a shot?)

    Thank you!

  • helpagirlout

    Hi Sandy! It’d be great if you could help me on this:

    GMAT: 760
    GPA: 3.44 (UCLA – Political Science)
    Work Experience: Big 4 Advisory: has worked my way up to manager from associate.

    Interested in switching to strategy consulting to really get better work experience. Fluent in three languages and would like to eventually use these consulting skills to expand business in Asia, since the private sector is rapidly growing. Ultimate goal in life is to build schools in rural China to help bring educational awareness to the country and create educational reform.

    extracurricular: involved heavily in finance groups in my undergrad, joined numerous committees and took on leadership positions, director of my fraternity, volunteered at ucla ronald reagan

    please let me know your opinions are on these schools:

    ANDERSON
    HBS
    STANFORD
    SLOAN
    WHARTON
    COLUMBIA
    HAAS

    and what you think would be good safety b-schools for me.

    Thank you!

  • Paco

    Hi Sandy, thank you for the hard work!
    GMAT: Expected 700 – 750
    GPA:3.6
    Education: two degrees from Texas Christian University, Economics & Political Science in 4 yrs
    Hispanic, 24 years old (25 by time program starts). Dual citizenship (English as second language, some French)
    Internships: think tank in DC, think tank in Lima, Peru (most important NGO in that country). While working in Lima, I wrote a chapter of a thesis for a Stanford student who was conducting research there. Wanted to “save the world” but after these internships decided socially responsible business could be more impactful and switched to Economics.
    Work experience: 4 years at two different automakers (a Japanese and an American) in their captive finance arms. Both in top 50 of Fortune 500.
    I used statistical analysis for +100,000 yearly used vehicles sales that resulted in XX$$ million gains “money ball” style, provided analysis to change corporate policy (i was the “new ideas guy”), helped price a financial contract for first electric vehicle (most fun assignment!). Then moved to another OEM’s financial arm to do subprime lending and assist with transition to becoming a full captive.
    Want MBA because I am not doing enough of the “socially reponsible” part and want change. Want to go to Stanford because they encourage you to take courses outside business, would like to take some basic engineering to become less of a ‘bean counter’. Long term goals are to innovate in the transportation industry, I think we should be flying to work in safe and fuel efficient vehicles, and need leadership to make it happen.
    Extracurricular: plays guitar/sings in band, soccer, 150 of community service when I was in highscool, some limited community service in college and after graduating (one hour a week).
    Can you recommend me options besides Stanford if I want to grow in the auto industry?

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