Where Six-Figure MBA Pay Is A Done Deal

by John A. Byrne on

moneytreeFor the MBA Class of 2008, the year started out like a song. By the time New York investment bank Bear Stearns collapsed in March, most MBAs already had their job offers in hand. And when all hell broke loose in mid-September, with Wall Street firm Lehman Brothers filing for bankruptcy, the Class of 2008 was already settled into their jobs.

So when you look back four years ago at MBA pay in 2008, it looked pretty good. Harvard Business School MBAs landed average salary and bonus that year of $144,261, the highest of any U.S. school. Stanford Graduate School of Business MBAs were not far behind, averaging $140,771.

The global financial crisis, however, soon wrecked complete havoc with both the job market and starting pay. A new analysis by Poets&Quants shows that for a few schools at least, a full recovery has yet to occur. Harvard MBAs who graduated last year, for example, made less than their counterparts four years ago in 2008–$142,501 in 2012 versus the $144,261 for the Class of 2008.

Yet, there are other top schools where MBAs have seen average starting salaries and bonuses not only recover from the financial implosion but have also grown. That has been especially true at Emory University’s Goizueta School, the University of Minnesota’s Carlson School, and Duke University’s Fuqua School of Business. From 2008 to 2012, average starting salary and bonus have increased by 14.8%, 13.6% and 11.2%, respectively.

MBAs AT EMORY, MINNESOTA & DUKE HAVE SEEN BIGGEST JUMPS IN PAY

Emory’s Class of 2012 averaged $124,066, up from $108,107 four years earlier. Carlson’s MBA graduates last year averaged $118,986 in salary and bonus, up from $104,745. And Fuqua’s Class of 2012 averaged $136,461 in starting pay, up from $122,742. These sums do not include other pay including tuition reimbursement, travel expenses, stock grants, or guaranteed year-end bonuses.

The analysis is based on newly published data provided by the business schools to U.S. News & World Report for its recently published annual ranking of the best full-time MBA programs in the U.S. One major benefit of the U.S. News data is that it is a true average of starting salaries and bonuses for MBA grads. Almost all the schools report these numbers separately and fail to take account of the fact that all grads do not receiving signing bonuses. U.S. News includes the MBAs in a class who failed to get a signing bonus so that the number is the real average.

SIX-FIGURE SALARIES AND BONUSES ARE AVERAGE AT 39 U.S. BUSINESS SCHOOLS

The results are fairly revealing for a number of reasons. All together, there are 39 business schools in the U.S. alone whose graduates make six-figure salaries and bonuses right out of the gate. And when you look back at the trend line from 2008, only MBAs at five of the 39 schools are making the same or less last year than the graduating class four years earlier.

And who would have thought that Dartmouth Tuck’s MBAs are being paid better by the market than those from Wharton, Chicago Booth, Columbia or Northwestern? And guess whose MBAs are highest paid immediately after No. 1 Harvard and No. 2 Stanford? It’s the graduates of MIT Sloan who landed average salary and bonus last year of $139,035.

One obvious caveat: These are unadjusted numbers. They don’t account for geography or industry choice. So schools in urban metro areas, such as New York, Boston, San Francisco, and Chicago, are likely to send more graduates into jobs that are higher paying than schools in Austin, Texas, Ann Arbor, Michigan, and Bloomington, Indiana. The same is true for schools that funnel large numbers of graduates into high-paying consulting and financial jobs.

(See the following page for our table of the schools where MBAs graduate with six-figure salaries and bonuses)

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  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25503923 Bruce Vann

    Hi John, is this a fair comparison? Wouldn’t we need to look at the rates of employment along with the average(or median whichever you like) starting salary in both time settings to get a clear picture?

  • Anonymous

    Ross comes in at 9th. Strong showing and speaks to the school’s strong geographic reach. Word is this is really going to go up under the new Administration’s strategy. Very bullish on this school.

  • TA

    Add Dartmouth’s 100% placement rate to this list and you have a golden school on your hands…i feel its the quintessential B school. …..Ivy League University, Amazing Alumni network….good batch size…not very elitist (cause all the prep school princesses goto harvard wharton)…..east coast ….highest placement rates and high starting salary

  • AIG_Quant

    This goes to show why Duke is a top 10 school and continues to climb.

  • 2013 Prospective MBA

    How about considering long-term ROI in terms of overall academic experience, quality of education, future job prospects & network? While some programs’ quality, prestige and value appreciate, others are fiercely striving to stay on top & competite. Competition to some extend is healthy, especially if it comes to education but why focus only on market value and not on aligning it to personal-professional goals> Why limit to such cold figures today? Business as well as any other field, should foster leadership development to lead-develop-grow-excel professionally and academically

  • http://www.facebook.com/tia.trussardi Tia Trussardi

    It’s interesting to compare these salaries with the salary figures that the Financial Times uses, which are weighted salaries three years after graduation. While Stanford and Harvard remain at the top of the FT rankings when filtered by salary, Wharton moves up to third, MIT drops to ninth and Ross to 23rd. I would be more inclined towards the longer-term view myself.

  • MBAddict

    This is a quite interesting article. Unfortunately we all know how misleading an average figure might be. It would be extremely interesting to have median and middle 80% figures…I guess

  • Justin

    You can find those figures (at least the median) on most school websites. They’re fairly close (if not relatively identical) to the average values shown above.

  • Guest

    The financial times salary numbers are inherently erroneous, and I personally wouldn’t use those as a gauge. The illogical calculations used in their salary metric have been hashed out ad nauseum on this site, so I won’t venture down that path again, except in simply saying the Financial Times salary metric isn’t a “long-term” salary metric.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tia.trussardi Tia Trussardi

    They can’t be that far off the mark if the same schools still come out on top on both rankings. Does it sound that wildly erroneous that Wharton would rank third and Columbia fourth? That passes the smell test, too, I would say. I would not consider three years “long term” but it is ipso facto longer term than these figures.

  • avivalasvegas

    Tuck fanboy ey?

  • sroidy

    No one is stopping Duke. Duke should be a solid M-7 school.

  • Kelly

    The financial times data is spurious for a variety of reasons. Look it up.

  • GoodShowing

    Fuqua higher than Booth, Columbia and Kellogg. Right where it belongs in the long run!

  • http://www.facebook.com/tia.trussardi Tia Trussardi

    I did look it up. The issues raised were that the FT underestimates the salaries of graduates of US schools and overestimates salaries of emerging market schools. Since the chart in this article is of US schools only, the latter point is not relevant and actually, even though there is a disparity in the salaries for grads of US schools between Forbes and the FT, the salary rankings for grads of US schools still line up pretty much identically on both. Forbes and FT essentially agree on which US b-schools produce the best paid graduates, even if they don’t agree on how much they are actually paid. So my original point still stands.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25503923 Bruce Vann

    Agreed. That’s what Forbes’ ranking does. But it only releases its ranking every 2 or 3 years.

  • Melodania

    If you look up employment rates, you will find that Ross fares fairly poorly compared to most top schools, making a 9th place standing on this list less commendable.

  • Lee

    Wow.. Potential future “banksters”?just joking

  • bruner

    Wonder why Darden has had trouble keeping with with its peers? Be interesting to see what has changed since it has improved its stats since 08

  • 2013 Prospective MBA

    In regards to rankings, these provide trending indicators (some valuable/others maybe worthless) to enhance the decision-making process when choosing a school/program, but cultural fit, learning environment and academics can def surpass the amount of $$$ one invests and earns before and after.

  • Roger

    Duke may not get any love from Sandy and John, but the numbers speak for themselves. Yale gets so much love from the P&Q team, it’s ridiculous. I’m not against Yale, but I think the N-E bias is so easy to spot. It’s not just about New York and New England. The Yankees up north are always prejudiced against schools below the Mason-Dixon.

  • Orangelives

    Where the differences are less than $5k, you really have to take it with a pinch of salt. This could easily be because a higher proportion of students at one or another school get a job in emerging markets where the salaries are not directly comparable, but are not weighted or reported at PPP.

  • John Wiley Boone

    Something else to consider are the networks at each place that might serve as reliable feeders into high income jobs, i.e. a Tuck-run company that has one position open offers to fellow Tuck grad and pays him that high demand salary. Dartmouth just comes to mind as the best example of this, but plenty of alum networks are just as nepotistic.

  • Orangelives

    Also, another thing to consider is the earning in second jobs after business school. I know several people who started at consulting firms straight from campus and ended up in PE/Financial Services a few years down the road. The saw some pretty large increases in those moves.

    Especially for the younger candidates (2-4yrs experience), it is likely that they accept a first position as a stepping stone into a different career path. What is important is how alumni fare 3,5,10 years down the road rather than straight off the program. The largest employers (banks/consultants) are likely to offer similar packages (varying mainly by geography) to MBAs of the Top 15 schools with similar experience out of the gate.

  • Pink

    It is what it is. You have to take it at face value.

  • Jordan

    Completely agree. This website undersells Duke like crazy!

  • NK

    Many of you are drawing silly conclusions here and a lot of Fuqua people seem to be prematurely patting themselves on the back. Schools like Wharton/Columbia/Booth put very large numbers of people in bulge-bracket investment banking and other high finance roles where the bonus is the real compensation driver. BB jobs pay $200k+ but have a low starting salary of exactly $100k. The $100k is what shows up in this comparison.

    Fuqua puts very few people into such roles. To think Duke Fuqua grads are making more money on average is ludicrous.

  • Lostinphilly

    This the result of the uptick in Consulting recruiting. Most of the schools w/ big gains (Duke, Emory) are very strong in their region.

  • Guest

    Doesn’t this article include bonus?

  • BullDogs

    Can’t compare Emory to Fuqua. Not in the same league.

  • Ian

    I prefer Tuck fanboys to the Fuqua fans that have been plaguing this website for the last few months.

  • Tuck

    No international reputation. The Dartmouth brand is not powerful. Isolated and rural surroundings. Heavy focus on undergraduates. Not ranked particularly high.

  • Ian

    I imagine it’s just guaranteed bonuses (signing, etc.). Banking associate performance bonuses aren’t usually included in school employment reports (which is why it always looks like consultants make the most money).

  • Landon

    Sour grapes? Why don’t you show us some statistics to bolster your claims? It is easy to make unsubstantiated allegations.

  • Vandy4life

    What is ludicrous is that you are casting aspersions without possessing any substantial evidence to corroborate your contention that Fuqua doesn’t place as well as Booth at bulge bracket firms. I’m not even a Duke grad. Just giving Fuqua props where they are due.

  • daphne

    What do you have against Fuqua? Seems like a solid school from the outside looking in. Just my $0.02

  • Overrated

    Who else thinks Booth is way overrated as a b-school? Seems easy enough to get into and all the grads that I have met seem to be lacking in personality!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25503923 Bruce Vann

    What exactly do you mean? The pay increase is middle of the pack and Darden has tended to do a better than comp schools at making sure people get employed. I’m not saying that you’re flat out wrong but I don’t understand what you mean.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tia.trussardi Tia Trussardi

    Its alumni do – it ranks 9th on the “alumni recommend” metric on the FT MBA rankings. It’s not quite the #1 program that BusinessWeek or The Economist would have us believe.

  • MBA3

    That then speaks even more to Ross’s ability to command high salaries to offset a lower rate. But from I understand, the lower rate is because students graduate earlier than in other programs.

  • NotBuyingIt

    I’m sure that there is an organized effort to send Fuqua folks to these boards.The amount of bloviated Fuqua-related commentary is ridiculous.

  • Wharton

    The top of Ross is decent, but the middle to bottom is just dreadful. Look at the emplyment rate and you see why Ross is worse than UNC, Emory, and Texas

  • bowdoin

    It’s a good school on the rise. Why not appreciate that fact?

  • Grant T

    Makes me proud to be a Ross grad! Go blue!

  • NotBuyingIt

    It’s only a school on the rise because you and your ilk keep repeating that it is so. Since many prospective and some current students form their perceptions of b-schools based on these very boards, a coordinated effort to prop up Fuqua’s reputation is misleading, comes off as rather desperate and screams of an inferiority complex.
    Fuqua has been in the 10 to 15 range for the last few years. And since the same schools in that tier have been jostling for some time, all the gloating over “Fuqua’s rise” will only turn off those who value humility.

  • Guest_1

    Also, big difference between $136k in NC-mid-Altantic and $134k in NY-CT

  • Joe_e

    Tuck is great in finance, but not so much elsewhere. Duke has pretty broad reach. All depends on what you want to do.

  • Elli

    People may not care to go to BB jobs. By same measure, stock and equity package for techies may not show up in “compensation driver.” Duke does produce a fair amount of hospital/medical industry executives, and the bonus structures there aren’t counted as well..

  • Good stuff

    LOL… okay buddy

  • AIG_Quant

    it’s only misleading if it isn’t true. The numbers speak for themselves. #6 BW #11 USN. Top salaries, great employment rates and awesome placements…
    Yeah show me another school in the 10-15 range that even comes close in these stats.

  • avivalasvegas

    That’s the whole point man…its a top 10-15 school. At the end of the day, no matter what anyone says Harvard/Standford> Wharton> Kellogg>Booth/MIT> Columbia/Tuck> Fuqua/Darden/Stern etc. etc. By “on the rise” you mean on the rise from 15 to 10? Sure…thats great..but put things into perspective and you’ll see that each year 4000 students graduate from higher ranked institutions. Put a mix of them in a room and you’ll see why.

  • avivalasvegas

    Amen brother. Try going to the other end of Chicago if you want personality. Don’t look for too many PE/VC guys there though.

  • NotBuyingIt

    BW has Ross 8 and Darden 10. USN has Darden 12, and Ross 14. Nice try though.

    And you do realize that the difference in actual scoring across rankings within +/- a few ranks is frequently statistically insignificant, right?

    Additionally, these rankings are partially impacted by student survey responses. If Fuqua’s efforts to encourage positive responses in these surveys is at least half as coordinated and emphasized as the effort to have students spam these boards, then whatever gains Fuqua has made in the rankings may be due entirely to methodological manipulation and may not even actually exist on the ground.

  • ColumbiaDream

    What are you talking about? Half the people commenting on this article have nothing to do with Fuqua or with Duke. Take a look at the league table will you? It is painfully obvious that you’re just a bitter hater who was probably rejected by Fuqua.

  • Kiran

    You should be banned from this forum. You are hellbent on making unsubstantiated allegations that asinine and slanderous.

  • lostinphilly

    Not comparing to- comparing against. If u look closely at the data its the regional schools that are posting the big gains. You can add Ross, Carlson, Sloan, and Tuck to that list. In the more international schools (M7), those students are battling it out for the large MBB offices (NY/SF). This is coming from personal experience successfully recruiting for an MBB Southern office from an M7 school. Southern offices in particular are taking just as many- if not more- students from Fuqua/Emory/NC/Texas/Darden as from HSW.

  • Hiten

    Happy to see Sloan, Fuqua and Tuck do so well. All schools I aspire towards.

  • Orange1

    Agree. People are taking a few thousand between schools and making a big deal out of it.

  • Orange1

    2nd paragraph is spot on. It’s like comparing times of the top runners in the Olympic 100 meters. And isn’t BW like 70% student surveys? Michigan and Duke always are high in this ranking. Let’s face it, the Duke campus is a very nice place to go to school. And Michigan is a huge sports school, which adds to the pride. These are both terrific schools, but it is a lot different going to these than a completely urban or rural institution.

  • 2cents

    NotBuyingIt, nothing wrong with fans of a school voicing their opinion, and if a potential student wants that kind of atmosphere, they’ll be attracted to it through these posts. As a current applicant I’ve actually been turned off by a lot of the Fuqua promoting on these boards, but that’s my opinion. I do agree that there seems to be a disproportionate number of Fuqua posts on P&Q, and I’d be shocked if a person intelligent enough to go to a top 10-15 school wouldn’t note that.

    In the end I’m glad all these schools are doing so well in terms of wage after school, it’s impressive. What separates schools like H/S/W is where they historically gets graduates 10/20 years from now.

  • Cornelius

    Fuqua is good- it’s probably the best of the US schools ranked 10-15, but it’s definitely not as good as the traditional top 10. It has improved drastically, so I could see it break into the top 10 in the next 15 years. The big changes I see on the horizon for the top 10 are Columbia getting worse and Stern getting better. Most schools seem to be holding their positions.

  • Slim

    Fuqua isn’t as good as H/S/W. It’s probably even a notch below Kellogg, Booth and MIT. But after that, I think it’s fair game to compare the rest. There really isn’t that big a difference between the schools 7-12 or 13. There isn’t even that much difference between all the top schools to being with – especially when it comes to teaching and resources; some are just better known and more established brands.

  • Cornelius

    I know Fuqua very well, have visited most of the schools in the 7-12 range, and know alum from those schools. Fuqua is clearly below Tuck, Columbia and Haas in terms of student quality. In terms of teaching and resources, you’re right. In terms of network, Fuqua falls short again. Fuqua might be comparable to Stern, but I’d give the advantage to Stern. I’d put Fuqua in its own league; it’s clearly better than places like Darden, Ross, Emory and Yale, but also clearly not as good as Tuck, Haas, Columbia etc.

  • MBA

    Yeah, bottom 10% for sure. But the rest of the class cashes in on solid offers. Over 400 companies visit the school. It’s outstanding for recruiting. No way would I say its “worse” than your list. It’s toe-to-toe with Darden.

  • kingfalcon

    Mind sharing which office? I’m thinking about targeting a MBB Southern office from an M7, too.

  • lostinphilly

    It’s a Texas office

  • kingfalcon

    Interesting. Thanks. I’m thinking more about Atlanta, personally, but good to know nonetheless!

  • KelloggGrad

    What you and others like you are failing to grasp is the fact that several of the posters who are praising Fuqua don’t attend the school themselves. Some of them have even said as much in their posts. If you are foolish enough to let the opinion of a few posters on this forum prevent you from applying to a school that you would otherwise apply to, you don’t belong at a top school.

  • JustMyOpinion

    You think it’ll take 15 years for Fuqua to break into the top 10? This a school that until recently was ranked 6th by US News. IMHO there is no disputing the fact that Fuqua is a top 10 school. M7 is a different matter.

    From my experience recruiting at a top tier consulting firm, Fuqua grads have been known to perform better than their counterparts from Haas and Tuck in particular. The school still has some way to go before it reaches Columbia’s calibre, but if I was a betting man, I would bet that it gets there in the next 5 years.

  • HBS_Dream

    Booth is a factory that churns out robots.

  • Cornelius

    Absolutely. Fuqua is clearly not in the same league as the other schools I mentioned. With all the competition, it will be difficult for Fuqua to improve the quality of matriculating students. Alumni network takes a very long time to improve. Even if we assume the students graduating now will make it to the big leagues, that’s still another 10 years away, and realistically it’s more like 15 years.
    I hope Fuqua gets there and I think it will. I’m a Duke alum and though I will be attending a different school for my MBA, the value of my Duke network will go up if Fuqua establishes itself firmly as a top 10 school. Also, I really hope to return to the Raleigh-Durham area and a strong business school will help ensure the area keeps growing in the healthcare space I plan to work in.

  • Cornelius

    People who matter, know about Tuck. It doesn’t matter if the average person on the street doesn’t know about Tuck, as long as the executive in the C-suite does. On that metric, Tuck beats Fuqua hands down. If you’re thinking of Duke vs Dartmouth instead of Fuqua vs. Tuck, then you’re ignoring the details about MBA PROGRAMS that matter.

    With Fuqua’s new MMS program and the part-time and evening programs, Fuqua is diverting a lot more resources to non-full-time MBA students than Tuck is. Tuck prioritizes its full-time MBA students more than any other program.

    Unless you plan to work in RTP, Duke isn’t any closer to the major employment centers than Dartmouth is. Rural vs. city doesn’t matter if the employers aren’t in your city.

  • 2cents

    KelloggGrad,

    Of course no one in their right mind would make a decision based off of anything involving an anonymous message board for which program to apply to. It might have been reason 1,001 to count for or against a school, all I stated was that individuals note it. Fuqua is a fantastic program with a lot of strengths, and I by no means chose to or not to apply there based off of anything to do with P&Q other than reading what John and Sandy write and understanding their biases. I do appreciate the sweeping statement you made concerning my ability to “belong” at a top school based off a single post, I was leaning towards taking an offer from Kellogg ironically enough.

  • urjerj

    I don’t think that the poster was comparing Tuck to Fuqua. He/she was just pointing out Tuck’s apparent shortcomings.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25503923 Bruce Vann

    Cornelius, where is Duke at in this list? I clearly see schools that you said aren’t in its league beating it.

    http://www.forbes.com/lists/2011/95/best-business-schools-11_land.html

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25503923 Bruce Vann
  • MBADude

    Do you really believe BYU is better than Stern? Same goes for Cornell better than Sloan. I think 9/10 people would say no. The 1 would be the people who go to those schools (Cornell and BYU).

  • Cornelius

    Well then you’ve answered your own question. On that list, Duke is ranked worse than an accurate measure of MBA quality would rank it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25503923 Bruce Vann

    That’s an ad hominem argument. You’ve got to come better than that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25503923 Bruce Vann

    MBADude, I see your point but if the metric is purely ROI then yes. Those schools that are generally thought of by people as inferior are actually superior.

  • Arturo

    Hi. At least for international students like me, school brand matters a lot. It is true that most people at the top know Tuck, but they would rather employ/work with a Duke MBA. Important clients and fellow workers recognize the Duke MBA.

  • Cornelius

    Posting a list is not posing an argument. You need to to provide a rationale for using Forbes’ methodology over another.

  • Cornelius

    Show me a top executive who prefers Fuqua over Tuck and I will show you a Fuqua grad in an executive position. Based on their merits, Tuck wins this face off easily.

    People who don’t know much about MBA programs still know the Ivy League. If you’re relying on brand recognition to sell yourself to the ignorant, then saying I have an Ivy League MBA is as valuable as saying I have a Duke MBA.

  • Chris

    Bruce — you seem to always have this need to prop up Darden over Duke. What’s the deal w/ that? Both are good schools. You go to Darden and we all know that by now — enjoy your time there and make the best out of it. Don’t obsess over minor details.

  • REX

    Bruce Vann

    Shouldn’t you be doing your home work?

  • BCG Newby

    toe to toe with Darden? Ha it’s consensus a better school than Darden. I would explain why but you probably wouldn’t see the facts as they are.

  • Dukie 2013

    Duke is great but it’s mostly a regional school.

  • DevinT

    I was accepted to both Fuqua and Ross. I chose Ross b/c the big/loyal alumni network, broader and more national recruiting opportunities, the MAP program, a great college town, and students in general are very supportive and dont take themselves too seriously. Duke’s name is strong, but I just didnt think the Fuqua had as much national appeal. I wanted CPG or product management. Ross employs more in both than anywhere except maybe Kellogg. That’s just me. Fit has alot to do with it as well. It was a tough choice.

  • Ian

    Darden is clearly superior to Ross unless you really want to work in Michigan.

  • Ian

    Tuck is stronger than Duke in pretty much everything outside of the South.

  • TreLeo

    Wow you are an idiot. keep dreaming buddy.

  • Contrarian

    Why do people spend so much time fighting over which school is better? This seems so immature and silly. It’s like these people are constantly looking for affirmation from the outside. All these folks are incredibly annoying…Bruce Vann, the Tuck, Ross and Fuqua fan clubs, the H/S/W worshipers. Focus inwards and on improving your own skills – it will take you farther in life.

  • Andrew

    I would use “further” when talking about figurative distance. So it’s – “it will take you FURTHER in life”.

  • london_style

    I don’t think Arturo tried to compare Fuqua vs Tuck. He just pointed out (and I would agree) that IN GENERAL people tend to respect the Duke program more. At least that’s the case where I’m from.

  • london_style

    Not sure if that’s the case outside of the USA…

  • CliquesAretheNewFormofRacism

    Who cares…Ross is full of egotistical racists.

  • YourBschoolAdmits41percent

    Did your application state that you were the grand wizard of the KKK? You shouldn’t proud to go to a school that lets everyone in. Stats don’t lie.

  • HBSbaby

    You must have a small weiner and a small brain

  • Mathiu

    Hey i am an international future applicant from southeast asia, I thought Duke University offers the best MBA program in america! am I right?!

  • TomHill

    UCLA has lower acceptance than Chicago…does that make it better? You have a small mind if all you can see is acceptance rate. Grow up.

  • Grant T

    Not surprised ur from HBS based on that comment. Enjoy your career chasing power and fame only to realize you’ll have none, in addition to ruining your marriage and friendships in the process.

  • HBSownsROSS

    Enjoy your shitty job at AccenturePWC when you get fired by me and your job goes to India. Enjoy your life now chasing undergrad and fat MBA females in the MidWest since your life won’t get much better.

  • Darden4life

    haha…MBA fatties aplenty….I personally prefer the lawschool girls.

  • Top15Applicants

    Why is Ross so racist? I keep hearing this in so many posts. Can someone shed some light?

  • CLT09

    There is no light to shed. One person posts it and everybody else keeps repeating it.

  • Cornelius

    It’s not. Some schools may be harder for internationals to integrate into, but that issue is separate from racism. No business school in the US is racist. Overall, North America is one of the least racist places in the world.

  • Grant T

    Haha you are laughable. If you were a real man, you wouldnt hide behind your stupid screen name while you berate people. You are the type that Clayton Christensen talks about…Enron, ponzi schemes, BoM etc. I was at BCG and a partner now in silicon valley doing educational media; my stock is worth 25MM not to brag. But it is meaningful. Best of luck to you. Maybe I’ll see you on Shark Tank soon huh?

  • Chris Henson

    Funny. Where do you go? Black and Hispanic students have more leadership
    Than any group. It’s am amazingly down to earth student body. I am thinking you are just egging people on, because no one actually thinks that.

  • FuquaPride

    Don’t go to Ross, go to Fuqua!

  • Renault

    As someone who went to Harvard, I’m sure the women in Ann Arbor are far more attractive than the women in Cambridge/Allston.

  • RossMBA

    Are you talking about the Business School or the stores? Because Ross is one of the few top schools who’s student body is not divided by race, background or nationality. And it is arguably the most collaborative student body too. By far.

  • IntlMBA

    Disagree about racism in the US. It is quite strong. If you cannot say black, gay, jew, or whatever it is because people consider it a bad thing. If it weren’t racist you would be able to use those words, just like in almost every country. People are different and it’s OK, the problem is when they are treated differently because of that. Racism is not fought by hiding these differences but embracing them.

  • IntlMBA

    Ahhh HBS… Big brains (usually), big pockets (frequently), no soul (always). When you are dead you’ll learn the only thing you needed to lear and it will be too late: “it’s not all about the money”. In the meantime enjoy mocking mexicans because they have no money to go to Vail on winter break (I actually saw this when visiting HBS).

  • IntlMBA

    That sounds like Fuqua, just names, no arguments.

  • Ballin since 519

    Ballin519!!!

  • Guest

    Wow, it seems that the 3 schools that really outdid their rank were Ross, Fuqua, and Tuck. Each of these schools’ salary ranking exceeded their USNews rank by at least 4 spots. Very impressed by the performance of these 3.

  • John Q

    Errrr…MIT Sloan is M7 and hardly “regional”. MIT is incredibly well known internationally…no disrespect but its international rep exceeds any of the school you’ve listed, with the possible exception of H/S.

  • John Q

    It’s funny how obvious bias are in commentary. The “solid” Kellogg 4th place is glaring.

  • avivalasvegas

    Really? Would you place them as 5th then? I’d agree with that. But they’re a top 5 school no matter how you spin it..which is something you just can’t say about Duke/ Darden et all

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