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		<title>Comment on More MBA Applicants Taking GRE Test by John A. Byrne</title>
		<link>http://poetsandquants.com/2012/02/08/more-mba-applicants-taking-gre-test/comment-page-1/#comment-12018</link>
		<dc:creator>John A. Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Said!</description>
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		<title>Comment on More MBA Applicants Taking GRE Test by Said Mohammad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Said Mohammad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot John. I can tell from the speed and devotion you answer your readers back with, that you care about this site and its readers. You mentioned you were writing a book on entrepreneurship, I think with the high quality service you provide on this site, you will have great tips in that book. Wait a minute! You&#039;re not an admissions staff member why am I brown nosing? Just kidding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot John. I can tell from the speed and devotion you answer your readers back with, that you care about this site and its readers. You mentioned you were writing a book on entrepreneurship, I think with the high quality service you provide on this site, you will have great tips in that book. Wait a minute! You&#8217;re not an admissions staff member why am I brown nosing? Just kidding.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Essentials Of An Awesome App by Alois de Novo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alois de Novo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would argue that admission to GSB or HBS constitutes a &quot;positional good&quot; (see Wikipedia entry for definition) and that it is impossible to gain possession of a positional good by fraudulent means. And because it is a positional good it is therefore not a thing that can be stolen or fraudulently obtained. It&#039;s not gold, it&#039;s not sexual favors, it&#039;s not an Audi: it&#039;s just something other people seem to want because it&#039;s deemed preferable by artifact of a ranking.

I would also argue that lying, skillfully lying, represents an inefficient and cost effective means for gaining possession of a positional good, e.g., admission to GSB or HBS. It&#039;s simply much cheaper than going to all the trouble of actually motorcycling to Mexico and building a school building for blind children. Better to know the guy who runs the board of the organization that sponsors those projects in Mexico.

Think strategically and profit mightily!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would argue that admission to GSB or HBS constitutes a &#8220;positional good&#8221; (see Wikipedia entry for definition) and that it is impossible to gain possession of a positional good by fraudulent means. And because it is a positional good it is therefore not a thing that can be stolen or fraudulently obtained. It&#8217;s not gold, it&#8217;s not sexual favors, it&#8217;s not an Audi: it&#8217;s just something other people seem to want because it&#8217;s deemed preferable by artifact of a ranking.</p>
<p>I would also argue that lying, skillfully lying, represents an inefficient and cost effective means for gaining possession of a positional good, e.g., admission to GSB or HBS. It&#8217;s simply much cheaper than going to all the trouble of actually motorcycling to Mexico and building a school building for blind children. Better to know the guy who runs the board of the organization that sponsors those projects in Mexico.</p>
<p>Think strategically and profit mightily!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Essentials Of An Awesome App by Linda Abraham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda Abraham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Bethany,

Amen. And congrats!

@FuriousStyles I appreciate a voice of integrity. Frequently -- admittedly not always and not immediately -- what goes around comes around. If it always came around immediately with absolute clarity, acting unethically would simply be incredibly, obviously stupid and not merely wrong. 

Best,
Linda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Bethany,</p>
<p>Amen. And congrats!</p>
<p>@FuriousStyles I appreciate a voice of integrity. Frequently &#8212; admittedly not always and not immediately &#8212; what goes around comes around. If it always came around immediately with absolute clarity, acting unethically would simply be incredibly, obviously stupid and not merely wrong. </p>
<p>Best,<br />
Linda</p>
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		<title>Comment on Your Odds Of Getting Into A Top School by mr market research</title>
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		<dc:creator>mr market research</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my target schools are columbia, harvard, wharton, kellog, uc berkely</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my target schools are columbia, harvard, wharton, kellog, uc berkely</p>
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		<title>Comment on Essentials Of An Awesome App by Furious Styles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Furious Styles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:20:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad truth is that people will lie to get what they want but it really depends on your own ethics and to rephrase GSB&#039;s essay what matters to you most and why. I would love to go to H/S/W but I would not lie to get in. Integrity matters more to me. I would rather get rejected on my own merit than get accepted thanks to my lies. However, I agree that if you can lie and feel good about it, there is nothing anyone can really do to stop you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad truth is that people will lie to get what they want but it really depends on your own ethics and to rephrase GSB&#8217;s essay what matters to you most and why. I would love to go to H/S/W but I would not lie to get in. Integrity matters more to me. I would rather get rejected on my own merit than get accepted thanks to my lies. However, I agree that if you can lie and feel good about it, there is nothing anyone can really do to stop you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Chicago&#8217;s Booth vs. Northwestern&#8217;s Kellogg School by John A. Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>John A. Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Advice seeker,

Columbia&#039;s greatest advantage is its location in New York and its status as one of the Ivy League schools. Geography is a major reason why applicants apply to schools. And yes, it&#039;s proximity to Wall Street is both a blessing and a curse because the fortunes of the school are more closely tied to the street&#039;s ups and downs than any other business school.

Based on survey data over the years, I believe that the quality of MBA teaching at Booth is higher and much more consistent across the board. Chicago support staff is very strong, making the MBA experience somewhat better. And the culture is less competitive and more collaborative. The school is more generous with scholarship money, too, because it has a very large endowment. Chicago also has substantially better facilities from classrooms and study rooms to open spaces for students to gather and bond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advice seeker,</p>
<p>Columbia&#8217;s greatest advantage is its location in New York and its status as one of the Ivy League schools. Geography is a major reason why applicants apply to schools. And yes, it&#8217;s proximity to Wall Street is both a blessing and a curse because the fortunes of the school are more closely tied to the street&#8217;s ups and downs than any other business school.</p>
<p>Based on survey data over the years, I believe that the quality of MBA teaching at Booth is higher and much more consistent across the board. Chicago support staff is very strong, making the MBA experience somewhat better. And the culture is less competitive and more collaborative. The school is more generous with scholarship money, too, because it has a very large endowment. Chicago also has substantially better facilities from classrooms and study rooms to open spaces for students to gather and bond.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wharton&#8217;s Impressive New West Coast Digs by John A. Byrne</title>
		<link>http://poetsandquants.com/2012/02/17/whartons-new-west-coast-digs/comment-page-2/#comment-12007</link>
		<dc:creator>John A. Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,

The stated reason is they don&#039;t want to dilute the value of their two-year, full-time programs. For years, they would divert execs into their exec education course catalog, specifically the multi-week general management program (at HBS, this is the AMP for Advanced Management Program). I believe, however, that some schools and their leadership tend to be more commercial than academic and saw that they have a valuable brand that should be extended. So these schools, which include Wharton, Northwestern and Duke, had leaders who wanted to seize market opportunities and thought of their schools less as academic places and more like businesses. If some other brands had similar leadership, you would have seen a lot more EMBA development. For example, Yale should have had an EMBA program in New York City and Dartmouth should have had one in Boston. Why? Because they would have been huges successes in markets where there are a lot of Yale and Dartmouth undergrads.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,</p>
<p>The stated reason is they don&#8217;t want to dilute the value of their two-year, full-time programs. For years, they would divert execs into their exec education course catalog, specifically the multi-week general management program (at HBS, this is the AMP for Advanced Management Program). I believe, however, that some schools and their leadership tend to be more commercial than academic and saw that they have a valuable brand that should be extended. So these schools, which include Wharton, Northwestern and Duke, had leaders who wanted to seize market opportunities and thought of their schools less as academic places and more like businesses. If some other brands had similar leadership, you would have seen a lot more EMBA development. For example, Yale should have had an EMBA program in New York City and Dartmouth should have had one in Boston. Why? Because they would have been huges successes in markets where there are a lot of Yale and Dartmouth undergrads.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Essentials Of An Awesome App by Bethany</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bethany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously? I am appalled at the integrity of some posters here. Lying is NEVER all right, and please do NOT assume that everyone does it. I have a humble background and profile and will be attending a M7 this fall. All I can say is that, karma has a funny way of catching up with you.

@Clint: Well said, kudos. - &quot;My only point (and not directed at anyone in particular) is that someones time and energy would be better served by making themselves into an extraordinary candidate, than by pretending to be one.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously? I am appalled at the integrity of some posters here. Lying is NEVER all right, and please do NOT assume that everyone does it. I have a humble background and profile and will be attending a M7 this fall. All I can say is that, karma has a funny way of catching up with you.</p>
<p>@Clint: Well said, kudos. &#8211; &#8220;My only point (and not directed at anyone in particular) is that someones time and energy would be better served by making themselves into an extraordinary candidate, than by pretending to be one.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on More MBA Applicants Taking GRE Test by John A. Byrne</title>
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		<dc:creator>John A. Byrne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Said,

That&#039;s hard to say because your application is based on a lot of different factors. If admissions like what they see generally but would be held back from a yes due to a low GMAT score, an equally low GRE might not hold them back. This would especially be true at schools that are sensitive to rankings that include GMATs in their methodology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Said,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s hard to say because your application is based on a lot of different factors. If admissions like what they see generally but would be held back from a yes due to a low GMAT score, an equally low GRE might not hold them back. This would especially be true at schools that are sensitive to rankings that include GMATs in their methodology.</p>
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