MBA Handicapping: Do White Males Need Better Stats Than School Averages To Get In? by: John A. Byrne on December 12, 2021 | 7,149 Views December 12, 2021 Copy Link Share on Facebook Share on Twitter Email Share on LinkedIn Share on WhatsApp Share on Reddit A strategy consultant for a major bank, Zach plans to apply to business school next year for his MBA degree. His target schools? Yale, Wharton, Chicago Booth, Dartmouth Tuck, and Duke Fuqua. He also brings a work background that includes stints as a corporate banking analyst and associate for a regional bank and a senior investment banking analyst at a boutique firm. Zach took the GRE during his senior year at Sam Houston State University in Texas where he majored in finance and earned a 3.6 grade point average. That GRE score of 321 puts him below the latest class average GRE scores at Yale (328), Wharton (322), and Chicago Ā Booth (324), and just in line at Dartmouth Tuck (320) and Duke Fuqua (314). But he is entering a highly competitive pool of applicants: white men with finance backgrounds. How does that fact change his chances of admission? Sandy Kreisberg, founder of HBSGuru.com, assesses his odds in this episode of Friday’s With Sandy. Poets&Quants founder John A. Byrne suggests that because Zach does not have a prestige undergraduate degree and is below the class stats at Yale, Wharton and Chicago he apply to a different range of schools, including NYU Stern, UCLA Anderson, and UVA Darden to enhance his chances of success. That’s because a 321 may still be a challenge for a white male in banking for Tuck and Fuqua. Any of those schools would allow Zach to achieve his post-MBA goal of working as an internal consultant in Big Tech. If you would like to participate in a future Fridays With Sandy webinar, you can contact Sandy and John here. 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