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The Full Archive: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

The first question every would-be applicant to business school asks is, “What are my chances of getting into a top MBA program?”

We’ve attempted to answer that question over several years in one of our most popular columns: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds. Sandy Kreisberg, founder and head of HBSGuru.com, assesses the odds of real-life candidates who have agreed to anonymously share their profiles and stats. His analysis of their chances brings thoughtful perspective to the MBA admissions process.

If you’d like to submit your stats and profile for a review, please do so on the latest handicapping article at the bottom of the archive.

Handicapping Your MBA Odds–The Entire Series


Part I: Handicapping Your Shot At a Top Business School

Part II: Your Chances of Getting In

Part III: Your Chances of Getting In

Part IV: Handicapping Your Odds of Getting In

Part V: Can You Get Into HBS, Stanford or Wharton?

Part VI: Handicapping Your Dream School Odds

Part VII: Handicapping Your MBA Odds

Part VIII: Getting Through The Elite B-School Screen

Part IX: Handicapping Your B-School Chances

Part X: What Are Your Odds of Getting In?

Part XI: Breaking Through the Elite B-School Screen

Part XII: Handicapping Your B-School Odds

Part XIII: Predicting Your Odds of Getting In

Part XIV: Handicapping Your MBA Odds

Part XV: Assessing Your Odds of Getting In

Part XVI: Handicapping Your Odds of Getting In

Part XVII: What Are Your Odds of Getting In

Part XVIII: Assessing Your Odds of Getting In

Part XIX: Handicapping Your MBA Odds

Part XX: What Are Your Odds Of Getting In

Part XXI: Handicapping Your Odds of Acceptance

Part XXII: Handicapping Your Shot At A Top MBA

Part XXIII: Predicting Your Odds of Getting In

Part XXIV: Do You Have The Right Stuff To Get In

Part XXV: Your Odds of Getting Into A Top MBA Program

Part XXVI: Calculating Your Odds of Getting In

Part XXVII: Breaking Through The Elite MBA Screen

Part XXVIII: Handicapping Your Shot At A Top School

Part XXIX: Can You Get Into A Great B-School

Part XXX: Handicapping Your Odds of Getting In

Part XXXI: Calculating Your Odds of Admission

Part XXXII: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Chances

Part XXXIII: Getting Into Your Dream School

Part XXXIV: Handicapping Your Shot At A Top School

Part XXXV: Calculating Your Odds of Getting In

Part XXXVI: What Are Your Chances Of Getting In

Part XXXVII: Handicapping Your Business School Odds

Part XXXVIII: Assessing Your B-School Odds Of Making It

Part XXXIX: Handicapping MBA Applicant Odds

Part XL: What Are Your Odds of Getting In

Part XLI: Handicapping Your Odds of MBA Success

Part XLII: What Are Your Chances Of Getting In

Part XLIII: Handicapping Your MBA Odds

Part XLIV: Can You Get Into A Top MBA Program

Part XLV: Assessing Your Odds of Getting In

Part XLVI: Handicapping Your Dream School Odds

Part XLVII: Handicapping Your MBA Odds

Part XLVIII: Assessing Your Odds of B-School Success

Part XLIV: Handicapping Your B-School Odds

Part XLV: Your Odds of Getting Into A Great School

Part XLVI: Handicapping Your Shot At A Top MBA

Part XLVII: Your Chances Of Getting Into An Elite School

Part XLVIII: Handicapping Your Personal MBA Odds

Part XLIV: Handicapping Your Elite School Chances

Part XLV: Handicapping Those Tough MBA Odds

Part XLVI: Your Chances Of Getting In

PartXVII: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

PartXVIII: Handicapping Your Shot At An Elite School

Part LXIX: What Are Your Odds Of Getting In?

Part L: Handicapping Your Odds Of Getting In

Part LI: Assessing Your Odds Of Getting In

Part LII: Handicapping Your Business School Chances

Part LIII: Your Chances Of Getting A Top MBA

Part LIV: Handicapping Your Shot At A Top MBA

Part LV: Calculating Your Odds of MBA Admission

Part LVI: Handicapping Your Shot At A Top School

Part LVII: Can You Get Into An Elite MBA Program?

Part LVIII: Handicapping Your Elite B-School Odds

Part LIX: Predicting Your Chances Of Admission

Part LX: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

Part LXI: What Are Your Chances Of Getting In 

Part LXII: Calculating Your Odds Of Getting A Top MBA 

Part LXIII: Handicapping Your MBA Odds

Part LXIV: Handicapping Your Shot At An Elite MBA

Part LXV: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

Part LXVI: Handicapping Your Odds of Getting Into A Top MBA Program

Part LXVII: Assessing Your Odds of Getting In

Part LXVIII: Handicapping Your Odds Of Getting Into A Great Business School

Part LXIX: Handicapping Your Shot At An Elite MBA

Part LXX: Handicapping Your MBA Odds

Part LXXI: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

Part LXXII: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

Part LXXIII: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

Part LXXIV: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

Part LXXV: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

Part LXXVI: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

Part LXXVII: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

Part LXXIII: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

Part LXXIIII: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

Part LXXV: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

Part LXXVI: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

Part LXXVII: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

Part LXXVIII: Handicapping Your Elite MBA Odds

  • Carol

    Dear John and Sandy,

    As a 30-year old, non-traditional applicant in the very beginning stages of the application process, I’ve really enjoyed watching your videos and love your “no BS” attitude (mainly Sandy’s!). Here is my profile summary:

    1) EDUCATION:

    University of Florida (2005-2009); 3.6 GPA
    B.S. in Journalism and Communications. Three Minors: French; Portuguese; Latin American Studies

    New York University (2011-2012); 3.7 GPA
    Master’s in International Education – Steinhardt School of Culture, Education and Human Development

    Fulbright Scholar (2009 – 2010; Taiwan) – Worked with the Taiwanese Ministry of Education and taught English in local elementary school.

    2) INTERNATIONAL EXPERIENCE:

    -Born and raised in Guatemala, Central America, until 18 years of age. I’m half Guatemalan/half Cuban and speak 5 languages (English, Spanish, French, Portuguese and Mandarin Chinese). I’ve visited 45 countries (and lived/studied in 6 countries).

    -National Kaohsiung Normal University (2010)
    One-year Mandarin Chinese Program – I graduated top of my class and ranked High Intermediate in language ability after 9 months of study.

    -NYU Global Program in Accra, Ghana (2012)
    Intensive summer study abroad program in “Comparative Perspectives of Education and Diversity”

    -Dublin Institute of Technology in Dublin, Ireland (2008)
    Semester study abroad program in International Journalism and French Business Translation

    -Instituto Brasil-Estados Unidos in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil (2007)
    Summer study abroad program in Brazilian Culture and Advanced-Level Portuguese Language

    3) WORK EXPERIENCE :

    -I’m currently the Director of Global Programs at Miami Dade College, the United States’ largest and most diverse higher education institution with over 165,000 students across 8 campuses.

    I’m responsible for development of all study abroad and exchange programs, creation of international partnerships and agreements (both with foreign institutions and foreign governments), grant writing and grant management (in the past year and a half, I’ve won grants from the Obama Administration’s White House, the French Embassy in the U.S., the U.S.-Japan Council, among others), and any other special initiatives.

    In the past year, I’ve won the National Excellence in Diversity and Inclusion in International Education Award for our international programs focused on workforce development, and I was also awarded the Diversity Abroad Innovation Award for creating the country’s first study abroad program for homeless students (in partnership with a local NGO). In 2017, I was asked to join a nationwide Task Force on Undocumented/DACAmented Students to create best practices and resources for the higher education community and was recently named a national Diversity Impact Scholar for my work with underrepresented communities.

    -From 2012-2015, I worked with the Institute of International Education (the non-profit agency that has handled the Fulbright program since its inception for the U.S. State Department). In my role, I managed the Foreign Fulbright Program for all of the Western Hemisphere – all of Latin America and Canada – (including grant management and working on MOUs and agreements with certain foreign governments).

    Before my work at IIE, I worked at NYU’s Office of Global Programs while pursuing my M.A. at NYU. I also completed internships at the U.S. Embassy in Mexico and Taiwan (both focused on international education and public diplomacy).

    4) COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT (I will only mention current engagement):

    -I am the youngest Board member of Global Ties, formerly known as the National Council for International Visitors (NCIV), which is a non-profit organization established in 1961 to promote excellence in citizen diplomacy. Our national and international member organizations design and implement professional programs, provide cultural activities, and offer home hospitality opportunities for foreign leaders, specialists, and international scholars participating in the U.S. Department of State’s International Visitor Leadership Program and other exchange programs.

    -After starting the nation’s first study abroad program for homeless students, I reached out to the Miami Dade County Public School System’s Homeless Education branch and created a Global Curricula that they now use in all of the public school system’s after-school programs (expanded into local homeless shelters).

    5) AWARDS/HONORS (Most recent only)
    -Excellence in Diversity and Inclusion in International Education Award
    -Diversity Abroad Innovation Award
    -Florida Senate Medal of Honor for Service Award
    -Fulbright Scholar
    -Diversity Impact Scholar
    -NYU 21st Century Scholar

    6) GMAT (practice test): 650 (As I’m sure you can tell from my profile, quantitative is not my forte but I’ll be taking the real test in 8 months after many, many hours of studying and tutoring).

    -I will also be taking accounting, statistics or economics in a local university in the next few terms.

    Target Schools: As much as we’d all love to go to HBS or Stanford, I’m applying through The Consortium scholarship program and my top picks are Berkeley, Georgetown, Yale, UT Austin, NYU and Duke.

    7) SHORT-TERM GOALS:

    -I would like to take my experience working with non-profits, government and the education sector and begin a career in public sector consulting. Many of the largest consultancy firms (including Deloitte, McKinsey, BCG and the Advisory Board Group) all have branches focused on educational reform, student success and learning outcomes, as well as working with international organizations like USAID and the World Bank — I believe my international background (living in Asia, Latin America, Europe and the U.S.), my language skills and my experience in the public sector would help me tremendously. That said, I’ve had informational interviews with consultants who have praised my work/industry knowledge but have insisted that I need an MBA to enter the industry.

    Any tips or feedback would be greatly appreciated!!!

    -Carol R.
    ckings86@gmail.com

  • David Jordan

    Hi Sandy and John!

    I would be very grateful if you could evaluate my profile.

    Mr. All Rounder

    21 year old white male (Junior in College) from London, UK.

    Education: 3.9 in International Politics from SFS, Georgetown. Junior year at Oxford reading PPE (First). 720 GMAT Anticipated.

    Work Experience: Insight Weeks at J.P. Morgan, Citibank, BNP Paribas and McKinsey in London, Texas and New York. Summer internship on Sophomore Leadership Program at Citi in NYC. M&A Summer Analyst at Citi, NYC. Also previously Policy analyst at the House of Lords and Counter Terrorism Think Tank the Quilliam Foundation in London.

    Extra Curricular: Georgetown Heavyweight Crew (1 year). Vice President of the Oxford Guild. Appointed Committee on the Oxford Union. Rugby Captain of highschool team, and county and Academy level rugby player. Krogh Honors Scholar writing 12,000 word dissertation on European Refugee Crisis in Sophomore Year.

    Entrepeneurship: Winner of cash prize at the the Oxford Said Business School VIEW Entrepreneurship challenge, and currently spending private venture capital on developing an online marketplace startup. Founder of a business that prints T-shirts and has raised £7,000 for FINCA and Cancer Research UK. Founder of interfaith movement, ‘branches of peace’ aiming to de-radicalise the discussion surrounding the Israel-Palestine Conflict.

    My goals are to learn more about business as an intern at either Citi M&A or a top three consulting firm once I graduate, and then to go to business school where I can develop my network, and my managerial skills in order to build upon my previous experiences and develop a successful startup.

    I want to apply to Yale Silver Scholars Program, HBS 2+2, and Stanford Deferred Program. Failing that, I want to reapply to these schools, as well as MIT, Columbia and Wharton.

    Thank you very much for all of your helpful advice.

    Best,

    David

  • dplynch1@crimson.ua.edu

    Sandy- thanks for what you do. Here’s my story:
    29 year old white male
    168Q 158V GRE
    ~720 GMAT (anticipated)
    Undergrad: University of Alabama, Civil Engineering, 2.86 GPA (3.56 in last two years after getting sober and getting my act together)
    Graduate: MS Aerospace Engineering from UCLA, 3.43 GPA
    Work experience: 4 years at a no-name medium-size employee-owned defense contractor, worked multiple DoD projects with increasing roles of responsibility. Currently with same company working on-site at the Missile Defense Agency as a data analyst running models for ballistic missile doomsday scenarios; I hold a Top Secret clearance.
    Volunteer experience: 2.5 years on the BoD for the local young professionals organization, and head of early career development for young professionals organization within my company. Volunteer at a local treatment center to share my story with younger alcoholics.
    Goals: Transition to a consulting role working with technology firms, preferably in aerospace and defense, or step into a management role at a large aero firm (Boeing, Lockheed) and also be involved in mentorship and development.
    Other: Avid Crossfitter, ultramarathoner, nine years sober
    Targets: Tuck, Kellogg, Duke, Darden, UNC, McCombs (+ a hail mary to MIT?)

    Question: There is a big rift in my pre- and post-sobriety grades. Are schools going to freak out about the sobriety thing? Should I avoid mentioning it? It’s a big part of who I am.

  • D.W.

    Hi Sandy, I really enjoy reading your predictions. I was wondering if you could help evaluate and provide advice on improving my profile:

    26 year old Asian female
    Ivy league graduate, majored in economics and geography, 3.7 GPA, 750 GMAT
    Currently working in retail strategy and analytics for a Fortune 10 company

    Work experience
    <2 years at a small financial consulting company advising top asset management companies on their go-to-market strategy for their financial products. Worked in both the US and the UK
    <2 years at a Fortune 10 company working in customer loyalty strategy to improve customer acquisition and retention

    Activities
    -Serves on the executive board for my regional alumni association, coordinates the alum interviews for university applicants in the region
    -Started a colleague partner program at the Fortune 10 company, pairing new hires with "buddies" who mentor them and help them navigate a huge company
    -Enjoys making maps, going to art galleries, trying fitness fads

    Career Goal
    My first job allowed me to build my leadership and analytical abilities, which enabled me to move on to my current role. Through my current role, I've decided that I want to continue my career in the retail space, but for consumer discretionary products. My goal coming out of an MBA program is to work for a branded retailer, reinventing brick & mortar strategy to improve customer loyalty. Think Nike – adding workout space in their retail space, or Sephora – offering classes in their stores. Both of these companies are able to create physical and memorable customer experiences that instill loyalty.

    My target schools are Stanford, Harvard, Kellogg, Columbia, MIT and Tuck

  • danixwang@gmail.com

    Hi Sandy, I really enjoy reading your predictions. I was wondering if you could help evaluate and provide advice on improving my profile:

    26 year old Asian female
    Ivy league graduate, majored in economics and geography, 3.7 GPA, 750 GMAT
    Currently working in retail strategy and analytics for a Fortune 10 company

    Work experience
    <2 years at a small financial consulting company advising top asset management companies on their go-to-market strategy for their financial products. Worked in both the US and the UK
    <2 years at a Fortune 10 company working in customer loyalty strategy to improve customer acquisition and retention

    Activities
    -Serves on the executive board for my regional alumni association, coordinates the alum interviews for university applicants in the region
    -Started a colleague partner program at the Fortune 10 company, pairing new hires with "buddies" who mentor them and help them navigate a huge company
    -Enjoys making maps, going to art galleries, trying fitness fads

    Career Goal
    My first job allowed me to build my leadership and analytical abilities, which enabled me to move on to my current role. Through my current role, I've decided that I want to continue my career in the retail space, but for consumer discretionary products. My goal coming out of an MBA program is to work for a branded retailer, reinventing brick & mortar strategy to improve customer loyalty. Think Nike – adding workout space in their retail space, or Sephora – offering classes in their stores. Both of these companies are able to create physical and memorable customer experiences that instill loyalty.

    My target schools are Stanford, Harvard, Kellogg, Columbia, MIT and Tuck

  • NULL NULL

    Sandy – I’d be honored if you could evaluate my rather unique profile.

    28 year old male
    West Point graduate, Systems Engineering major, 3.16 GPA, 720 GMAT
    Retired Captain, currently on 2nd year of a TFA assignment in Cleveland

    Work Experience
    Spent 5 years as a Field Artillery officer in the Army, retired as a captain. Stationed in Hawaii and South Korea.
    Fire Direction Officer (12 months) – In charge of an 8 man team, verified and controlled all howitzer rounds fired by the gun line.
    Fire Support Officer (15 months) – In charge of a 10 man team. Responsible for the planning, requesting, and delivery of all rounds fired by the gun line.
    Platoon Leader (11 months) – In charge of a 24 man platoon. Responsible for the planning, coordination, and execution of all platoon activities.
    Targeting Officer (15 months) – Worked in the Fires operation cell for the Korean Peninsula. Worked alongside and built relations with Korean Army personnel on a daily basis.

    Teach for America – Currently in the second year as a freshman math teacher in a low income area of Cleveland.

    Volunteer work – Volunteered as youth wrestling coach on base in Hawaii for one season. Volunteered at the local orphanage in Korea. Currently serving as an assistant wrestling coach for the high school I’m working at.

    I have been using the leadership skills I developed in the Army to provide purpose and direction to my students. My goals are to transition into consulting, and eventually become the leader of an educational reform organization. Born and raised in Cleveland, my dream is to improve the inner city schools’ educational system as a whole, most notably improving test scores and sending more kids to college.

    I’m interested in Harvard, Wharton, Northwestern, Tuck, MIT, Duke, Yale, and Columbia.

    Thank you for your time.

  • NULL NULL

    Sandy – I’d be honored if you could evaluate my rather unique profile.

    28 year old mixed Asian/White male
    West Point, Systems Engineering major, 3.16 GPA, 720 GMAT
    Retired Captain, currently on a TFA assignment in Cleveland

    Work Experience
    Spent 5 years as a Field Artillery officer in the Army, retired as a captain. Stationed in Hawaii and South Korea.
    Fire Direction Officer (12 months) – In charge of an 8 man team, verified and controlled all howitzer rounds fired by the gun line.
    Fire Support Officer (15 months) – In charge of a 10 man team. Responsible for the planning, requesting, and delivery of all rounds fired by the gun line.
    Platoon Leader (11 months) – In charge of a 24 man platoon. Responsible for the planning, coordination, and execution of all platoon activities.
    Targeting Officer (15 months) – Worked in the Fires operation cell for the Korean Peninsula. Worked alongside and built relations with Korean Army personnel on a daily basis.

    Teach for America – Currently in the second year as a freshman math teacher in a low income area of Cleveland.

    Volunteer work – Volunteered as youth wrestling coach on base in Hawaii for one season. Volunteered at the local orphanage in Korea. Currently serving as an assistant wrestling coach for the high school I’m working at.

    I have been using the leadership skills I developed in the Army to provide purpose and direction to my students. My goals are to transition into consulting, and eventually become the leader of an educational reform organization. Born and raised in Cleveland, my dream is to improve the inner city schools’ educational system as a whole, most notably improving test scores and sending more kids to college.

    I’m interested in Harvard, Wharton, Northwestern, Tuck, MIT, Duke, Yale, and Columbia.

    Thank you for your time.

  • AP

    @poetsandquants-c81e728d9d4c2f636f067f89cc14862c:disqus What I, and many readers would like to see is success stories from round 1 applicants. Particularly those with maybe a sub-standard GPA, from an over-represented applicant pool. Any chance of that happening?

    Also curious whether Sandy got his predictions regarding chances at schools right!

  • Patrick B.

    Hi there! I’d like to know the best business schools I could get into, specifically HBS, Stern, Sloan, Columbia, and Wharton. What schools that I haven’t listed might I be a match for?

    APPLICANT PROFILE:
    Age 26, white male
    710 GMAT
    3.3 Undergrad GPA from Top 50 private university
    3.9 Master’s GPA in Finance from Top 50 private university

    EDUCATION:
    -Boston U., Film and TV, 3.3 GPA (went from 2.85 to 3.30, every semester increase)
    Activities: Philanthropy Chair of Fraternity, Division 1 Men’s Lacrosse player
    -New York University, M.A. in Finance, Strategy, and Marketing, 3.9 GPA
    Activities: Teaching fellowship

    EXPERIENCE:
    1) Interned for European major media giant (Sky), for major Hollywood talent agency (ICM), and for The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon (NBCUniversal)
    2) Alumnus of prestigious/selective (sub-10% acceptance rate) NBCUniversal Page Program, a century-old program for most promising college graduates (in media), they work in every major sector of media at NBC over the course of one year, and also work as NBC studio tour guides at Rock. Center in NYC
    3) (Entry-level) Associate, branding/strategy for NBCUniversal
    4) (Junior-level) Manager, branding/strategy for NBCUniversal, handles hiring and managing of a team of 3-5 people

    PHILANTHOPY/SERVICE:
    -50 hours/year community service: “motivational counselor” to students in low-income, low-graduation rate high schools in Greater NYC Area
    -In the works of creating an annual fundraising/awareness event for undocumented traumatic brain injuries to athletes (I sustained two serious concussions in college which ended my lacrosse career early)

    Goal:
    -I want to become the CEO of NBCUniversal one day. I feel I have the tools (leadership ability, work ethic, integrity, and intelligence), but I need an MBA to figure out how I can effectively use those tools. I care deeply about NBC and it’s continued success, and I want to build my career there specifically.

  • eliroberts@gmail.com

    Hi John and Sandy,
    I’m a 33-year-old American/Israeli. My goal is INSEAD or Columbia, with HEC as a second.
    -Started two education companies and one FinTech start-up in SE Asia (Myanmar and Thailand)
    *started first business six years ago on $18K and grew annual revenue to $1.5 million within 5 years
    *120 employees at time of exit from first company with 85,000 students through Thailand and Myanmar
    *accepted into start-up accelerator for FinTech project
    -Served in the Israeli Military
    -GMAT in progress – testing 620 now with a goal of 700 (obviously higher if possible)
    -Graduated 2005 from USC in LA with a 2.98 GPA
    -Speak Japanese, Thai, Hebrew, Arabic, French and Spanish
    -LGBT
    My goal is to deliver financial products to the unbanked 2 billion.
    Beyond my named schools, what schools would you recommend for someone with such a conflicting – low GPA vis-a-vis work experience – background?

  • arthshukla@gmail.com

    Hi John/Sandy,

    I am a 24 year old engineering student male from India. I would appreciate it if you could go through my profile and help answer the questions at the bottom.

    1> Education
    Top 10 Engineering College, Computer Science Major, Percentage(64% ~ 3.5 GPA), First Class, 2010-2014

    2> Work Ex:
    I was selected for a selective rotational program in financial analytics in a top British Bank. I was promoted within a year. I decided to leave the job to work on a technology based logistics startup, from its inception, as a core team member. The startup has grown to a valuation of 1 million USD in a year and is backed by a renowned accelerator.

    3> Extra Curriculums:
    I have worked in a non-profit organisation for more than 6 years, focussing on social welfare issues such as education, women empowerment and sanitation. I have also worked in CSR activities to help increase employability of young adults. I was involved in organising of a model G20 Summit in College.

    4>Test Scores:
    GMAT : 740(Q50 V38 AWA5 IR8) TOEFL: 113

    5>Goals:
    Immediate – Top 3 Management Consulting
    Long Term – Entrepreneurship/VC in a technology sector that can also take initiatives for social change

    6>Other Info:
    Inflicted by many injuries and ailments in undergrad which affected GPA at the time. Improved academic performance post improvement. Underwent surgery to continue playing tennis and run half-marathons.
    Selected in a deferred admission program for a top 3 B-School in India, starting from 2017.

    Q : Due to my deferred admission, I am in a situation where I need to apply for top US Business Schools at a slightly younger age. What are my chances at top B-Schools such as Harvard,Stanford,Wharton,Sloan and Kellogg?

    Q: Should I mention my deferred admission in my applications. Is it more likely to support or hurt my application?

    Thanks a lot in advance!

  • tushant

    Thnks for your answer…. can u plz tell my chances of gettng in NYU FULL-TME MBA or MS IN FINANCE programm and any other university u recommend for future in INVESTMENT BANKING

  • Your best bet for NYU is probably the school’s part-time MBA program. On the other hand, if you have a very good reason for your poor GPA (illness, family crisis, etc.), you may be able to overcome it with that very high GMAT score and get into the full-time program.

  • tushant

    I am a college senior with a very poor GPA. I have a GMAT score of 750 and a excellent LOR. I have done my own startup venture in college and it was pretty successful. I cleared CFA level 1. I want to do MBA from NYU can u plz tell chances of me getting in and other universities suggestions. I want to be an INVESTMENT BANKER

  • Hubert Lau

    Oxford should take you in a heartbeat!!

    -SenCon @ DTT S&O, MBA@Oxford

  • Hubert Lau

    Consider INSEAD if you want to get into MC at MBB!

    -SenCon @ DTT S&O, MBA@Oxford

  • tops

    Hi John/Sandy,

    Male 28 years old. non US-citizen ( not very well-represented european country).

    -Jr Manager at a big pharma Fortune global 500 company in the US. (entered as analyst 4 yrs ago promoted to associate then jr manager). Reason for MBA: Want to jump from commercial operations to business development and move up the corporate ladder in big pharma.

    -undergraduate degree from middle ivy (i.e. Penn/Columbia) . Double major in engineering and economics GPA 3.43 /4.00 (ouch i know…) (graduated cum laude)

    -graduate degree in engineering from the same ivy GPA 3.98 /4.00

    – Scores: GRE: Q: 169/170 V:169/170 (took GRE for my masters)

    GMAT: 780

    -active involvement and leadership positions in a major charitable organization, one of the philanthropic initiatives in my company s and my university alumni club.

    Chances for HBS, Sloan, Wharton, Booth, Columbia?

    Really appreciate your help.
    thanks!

  • helpexpress

    Hi there,

    – 26 year old black British female (parents are immigrants from Zambia).
    – Masters (MEng) in Mechanical Engineering from a UK university (mid tier overall, but top 10 for engineering)
    – GPA: 3.45 (converted based on grades and 2:1 degree classification)
    – Extracurriculars at uni include mechanical engineering society president, head of engineering school student government, volunteer for a local organisation that helps underprivileged youths apply for university.
    – Completed internships while at uni as a business analyst in Shanghai, and as a mechanical engineer for an oil company (think Chevron, Shell etc.)
    – Aiming for a 700-720 GMAT
    – Work as a mechanical engineer for an multinational engineering company within their oil and gas division (eg. AECOM, Jacobs Engineering)
    – Will have 5 years work experience upon matriculation. 1 promotion, was on track to get a second, but the oil industry downturn has put a halt on all promotions at my company.
    – Chair of the Institution of Mechanical Engineers (IMechE) young members network for my region, where I organise events to promote mechanical engineering to school children and give job search related advice to university students. Was awarded young Mechanical Engineer of the Year by the IMechE for my efforts.
    – Goal is to transition into general management for a clean energy tech firm.

    I’m interested in applying to MIT, Yale, Berkeley, Cambridge and Oxford.

    If you could please assess my chances that would be great!

  • Amber O’Neil

    I have kind of an odd background and am looking to apply to MBA in a year and am wondering if you have any suggestions as to if I should apply to elite and if so, how I may spin it better. If not elite, suggestions as to where?
    1. I grew up in Alaska and graduated from Alaska school with 3.92 GPA in Business Accounting
    2. I worked for ten years as Account/Office Manager of Alaskan Medical Practice
    3. I started my own consulting company with my spouse, while continuing to be employed at Medical Practice
    4. Taking GMAT soon…expect to do well, but if not, will retest
    5. Have been unemployed for 2 years now…husband diagnosed with terminal cancer and we had to move for his care and I’ve been his primary caregiver.
    Short Term Goal: To work in a large healthcare finance department (think Blue Cross or Mayo Hospital Systems)
    Long Term Goal: To become CFO of large healthcare organization or serve in healthcare based government finance position.
    He’s in temporary remission, so I could go back to work to pad my resume, but am getting older (40 next week), so don’t want to put this off too much. Plus, his health isn’t so stable yet and worried about leaving him (hence the 1 year out for MBA program). Is my time out of the workforce plus my unusual Alaska background going to kill my odds?

  • LebanonIsrael

    Hi Sandy,
    Thank you for all your insight. I would really appreciate if you could evaluate my chances at top 10 B schools.

    Education: Top 10% of mid-tier university in the U.S. (i.e. a top 50 university), studied both English and Biology, received scholarship for all 4 years of university, received an additional scholarship to study abroad at the American University of Beirut (only student selected to receive a scholarship), president of 3 clubs in undergrad (one of which I founded), received multiple research grants

    Work Experience: Internship in boutique consulting (pharma-focused), then ~1.5 years in strategy at a top bank in NYC

    Extracurriculars: Board member for a local non-profit that supports education initiatives in developing countries (organized and participated in a trip to one of the developing countries), mentor for underprivileged high school women in NYC, volunteered at science museums consistently for ~9 years in a variety of departments

    Background: Female, 24, american, raised in Seattle, lives in NYC, interesting family background (my mom is belarusian and romanian- jewish and my dad is middle eastern – christian). My family background has sparked my interest in the region and I’ve traveled to Israel, Lebanon and other areas of the Middle East.

    GMAT: 730

    Goal: Short-term: join a top mgmt consulting firm (M/B/B), long-term: start a non-profit that provides science education opportunities for women in the Middle East (similar to the Malala Fund, but focused on science specifically)

    Target Schools: HBS, Stanford, Wharton, LBS, MIT, Columbia

    I know my chances might be slim- please be brutally honest! Also- I’m thinking of applying fall 2017, so I am considering switching jobs to boost my application. If there are any roles in particular that might boost my chances before I apply please let me know (e.g. a manager role at a start-up? more non-profit experience?).

  • KC

    Hi John/Sandy – not sure if you noticed this but your numbering is off… You duplicated XLIV to XLVIII

  • Tuk Tran

    Sandy, can you explain the origin of the Booth essay question this year? Is it me or was someone seriously smoking something when they created this?

  • j rajan

    Hi Sandy
    I am a 29 year old, Indian, male currently living in Virginia. I would really appreciate if you could assess my chances at top 5 US B schools.

    Profile summary :
    1) EDUCATION : BS in civil Engineering from top 15 University in India (GPA 8.2/10). Masters in Environmental & Water Resources from Virginia Tech, USA (GPA 4.0/4.0)

    2) WORK EXPERIENCE : i) Worked in India with one of the largest engineering firm. Worked on environmental assessment of thermal and hydro power sites, handled a team of 5 people. Left the job after 2 years to follow my passion of becoming an Environmental specialist/consultant and joined Virginia Tech for next 2 years.
    ii) Post Masters, got an opportunity to work with an environmental firm (Fortune 500 company) for their design and consulting group. For the past 2 years, involved in some challenging and interesting projects of Flood protection analysis, Assessment and Design of water distribution system, stream pollution control, coordinating with Public utility clients, EPA regulations .

    3) EXTRACURRICULAR :i) Currently serving as the Vice President of Engineers without Borders, Central Virginia Chapter. Working on 3 different clean water projects located in Honduras, Guatemala and Zambia.
    ii) Board member of Environmental division of American Society of Civil Engineer (ASCE), Virginia since 2011. Served as the Chair for 2014 session. Organized Technical sessions, provided mentor ship to VCU university students on different community based projects.
    iii) Started an Initiative program connecting non profits working on water and sanitation challenges in India with International development organizations. The program is still continuing and in its initial stages of success.

    4) Publications : Have more than 3 conference presentation and journal papers relevant to the field of Environmental and Water Resources.

    5. Awards/ Honours : i) Awarded Membership of Chi Epsilon & Phi Kappa Phi Honour societies. ii) Won twice graduate paper award competition organized by ASCE for young professionals. iii) Awarded Undergraduate Excellence Award for active participation in student club activities (quite old, in 2008 possibly).

    6) GMAT : 730 (QA 50, Verbal 39)

    I wish to expand my role from being a technical expert to brining best management practices (using technical innovations) to the environmental and water based issues affecting the developing nations.

    target Schools : HBS, Sloan, Booth, Haas, Yale, ISB, LBS

    Please let me know my realistic targets. I know HBS may not be within reach, but i still want to make a try . I am making my application round 2 this year.

  • Lebanese

    Hey John and Sandy. Thank you for this very interesting series.

    I’d appreciate you discussing the following profile?

    Lebanese, 27-28 years old at matriculation, Male (born in a city that qualifies as a war-zone in Lebanon). First generation at University Level.

    Education: (all according to the French system in French schools)
    -Master’s Degree (5 years), Civil Engineering (from the only public school in Lebanon, GPA 70/100)
    -Master of Science (1 year), Civil Engineering (Ivy Engineering School in France, GPA 57/100)… both GPAs qualify as very low GPAs!!!
    -GMAT: 740

    Work Experience:
    5-6 years working in Construction Management of Large Infrastructure Development Programs in Remote Areas in the Middle-East (Construction Consulting Company of 1,000 employees, Promoted 3 times, Best in company history).

    Extra-curricula:
    Martial Arts: 5 times National Champion (in 2 disciplines) + Member of National Team + Coached a class of 35 people (4 years) during University.
    Personal Trainer (4 years) during University.
    Private tutor (4 years) for 12 students during University.
    Member of the University’s Chess Team (4 years).
    Helped numerous friends and colleagues get into PhD programs and get better jobs…

    Entrepreneurship:
    Co-founder and Co-owner of 3 small family businesses (a pet-shop, an aluminum workshop, and a restaurant).

    Why MBA?
    I want to return to the Middle-East, join a top-construction consulting company in a strategy role (be a part of reshaping the Construction industry in the Middle-East) + Continue with small entrepreneurial activities on the side (PS: the purpose of the entrepreneurial activities is not purely financial, it’s actually helping unaccomplished family members, who became liabilities, become successful members of society and assets to the family…).

    Schools:
    Rotman (UoT), Michigan Ross, UCLA Anderson, Duke Fuqua, and Wharton!!!

  • wi11iedigital

    I think a lot of us are really looking forward to getting “updates” to the predictions–seeing how the chips fell. As someone who was profiled and just graduated, I’d love to update and think the chance or reaching folks is probably slipping away…

  • Kellogg admit

    I guess you have decent chances at all M7 but H/S.

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  • Israel

    Hello John and Sandy,

    Kindly take a look at my profile. Appreciate your advice.
    Here are my stats:
    32 year old from the former Soviet Union
    GRE – 315
    GPA – 3.0 Undergraduate degree in IR from an American University in England
    GPA – 3.2 Graduate school, MPP degree from top school in East Asia

    Work experinces:
    Diplomatic posting in UN in Switzerland
    Currently Adviser to a Member of Parliament
    Currently Lecturer at local presidential academy for public servants

    Extracurricular: former national youth boxing champion
    black belt in Judo
    current volunteer boxing and judo coach at a local sports centre

    Schools of interes: Columbia, Booth, Whartan, INSEAD, Harvard and Kellog.

  • Indian IT male

    the best thing about your profile is “White male”. You will get in.

  • S

    Hi Sandy & John,

    Thank you for your comments and insights! Could you please take a look at my profile and let me know how it looks?

    – GMAT: 740 (open to taking it again)

    – University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign Bachelors of Science in Computer Engineering, 3.4 GPA

    – Work experience: 1 yr Technical/Software consultant at Small/Midsize Digital firm, 2 yrs at Accenture – at both companies working on cutting edge Internet of Things (IOT) custom solutions for fortune 50 companies. Solid technical background. out standing offers from a few start ups.

    – Promotions: 2 promotions in 3 years

    – Extracurricular: Resident Advisor (UofI) involved in causes as education, equality, LGBT, drug and alcohol abuse.
    Instructor at Khan Academy (free, world-class education for the world)
    High school – formed and captained soccer and cricket teams. Lead the team to inter school championship
    Volunteer for buildings schools for the blind, tree plantation in areas with deforestation.
    Teaching under privileged kids in india (not in association to any institution)

    -MBA course goals: Entrepreneurship, Leadership and General Management.

    – Goals:

    Short-term continue in technical consulting – lead and manage various IOT practices. Provide managerial and technical oversight. Sell and Deliver. Change and innovation management.

    Long-term, after gaining experience and client relationships, create a technology company serving IOT needs and markets. I believe that IOT is definitely the next big thing and the business world is not quite sure what to make of it, yet.

    Strong Philanthropic aspirations: providing free education and shelter for children who cannot afford it. Education solves all issues that plague the world.

    – 25 year-old Indian male

    – School targets: Wharton, Booth, HBS, Sloan

    Other info/Background: Born in rural India, Brought up in Urban Indian city. Went to a top boarding school in India for 5 years. Deans list, UofI. 3 month internship at a startup in california. 3 month internship at oracle.

    Appreciate your feedback and any tips that you may have.

    Thank you

  • Tom Smithson

    Hey Sandy and John,

    I’m interested in hearing your take on my chances at Harvard, Wharton, Stanford, Columbia, MIT, Tuck, and Chicago – as well as any other schools you recommend. I will be applying next year round 1.

    My profile:

    GMAT: 760

    GPA: 3.9

    Undergrad: RPI (Double major in math and computer science)

    Work experience: I have been a tech analyst at Merrill Lynch for the past 2 years. (Promoted twice and manage 3 people)

    Goal: Work in tech PE division of top PE shop.

    Extracurriculars: I mentor a local robotics team. Where I teach programming to needy children.

    -During school I was the captain of the computer science team, and lead analyst for the investment club.

    26-year-old White male

  • Más Cafeína

    John and Sandy,

    I’ve submitted a couple third round applications that I’d be interested in having picked apart publicly. I got out of the military in the fall planning on moving straight to a civilian job, but wasn’t satisfied with the career options marketed towards separating junior military officers by headhunters. I took the Economist’s practice GMAT contest and got a 740, so I took a real one a week later. My stats:

    -White male, 27, from the Stanford area
    -3.64 in Economics from West Point
    -Captain of the Water Polo Team
    -Skipped a year of high school and started West Point at age 16
    -Received an award for the highest GPA in the first three courses of the mechanical engineering program that both mech majors and minors take. (#1 out of ~200)
    -Qualified as a blackhawk helicopter pilot
    -4 and a half years post flight school as an army officer in middle manager positions, nothing too exciting. One deployment to Afghanistan flying transport missions and leading a team that planned all helicopter transport missions in a big chunk of the country.
    -760 GMAT (48Q/46V)
    -I want to work as a product manager at Nike

    Applied to:
    -Stanford round 3
    -UT McCombs round 3

    Is applying to Stanford round 3 a waste of time? I have an image in my head that everyone at Stanford has cured cancer, but that’s a lot of cancer to cure, and they’d probably just go to medical school if that was their thing.

    What if I’d taken a mediocre sales job for a year and reapplied round 1 in the fall, would that have improved my odds?

    Thanks,

    MC

  • Big Mike

    Hi John and Sandy,

    Love reading these, would you please give your feedback on my chances? Planning to apply to B-school in ~3 years

    660-700 practice GMAT
    3.9 GPA
    Undergrad in Finance from large state school
    Opportunity to choose a 15 month rotational program with Vanguard or typical Big 4 position this summer
    … Or focus on my business

    -Extra Curricular:
    Developed a product and garnered significant media attention (Interview on Fox Business Network) and sales (sold to people in ~15 countries and almost every U.S. state)
    President of 100+ member Finance Organization
    Founder and President of Ping Pong club
    Executive member in Fraternity
    Lead Analyst in Student-Run Hedge Fund (highly competitive)
    Residential Assistant all 3 years
    Love kids: leader in kids church, worked as a kids counselor, Big Brother

    Don’t have a clear direction yet, either want to be corporate exec or focus on the entrepreneurial rout. I’m essentially paying someone to run the day-to-day aspect of my business while I focus on school/career.

    Stretch?
    – Wharton
    – MIT
    – Kellogg
    Goal?
    – Yale
    – Duke
    – Cornell
    Safety?
    – Georgetown

    Thanks!
    (White Male)

  • Mr NoChanceTooSilver

    Hi Sandy and John,

    Hoping for odds on my profile at H/S/W, Yale, MIT.

    Bio: Indian male, 26.

    GMAT: 740

    Education:
    – Integrated Masters (i.e. Masters right after high school without a Bachelors in between) in Computer Science from a Top 5 UK university (not Oxbridge, but right below).
    – GPA: 77% average, which according to WS is a 4.0, but definitely at least a 3.7.
    – Spent a year abroad at ETH Zurich (consistently very highly-ranked for tech subjects)
    – Best dissertation award in final year (won the company I was working for a 100K government grant)

    Work Ex:
    – 4 years at 2nd-tier consulting firm (think Booz/LEK/OW), working in finance, tech and energy cases and as part of a special data science practice (due to undergrad specialisation in that). 3 promotions, some leadership.
    – Internships at a tech start-up, renewable energy PE, UK government (Home Office)
    – Externship from firm at an international governance body (think UN/World Bank)

    Extra-Curricular:
    – Pro-bono consulting for a renewable energy startup I did 2 internships with (one before I started uni, one right after I finished, and then have been advising them ever since) in India – very close relationship with CEO (one of my recs)
    – Set up a school in Nepal for underprivileged kids as part of Engineers Without Borders
    – Helped set up a robotics teaching program from scratch at a new school constructed in a remote area of the Himalayas
    – Active in recruiting at my uni with current firm
    – A bunch of leadership positions at university and school clubs (more like team lead than President/Treasurer, though), but nothing special
    – Some pro bono consulting for local businesses (e.g. my tailor and a local restaurant)
    – At uni, won a national award (one of 10 Undergraduates of the Year)

    Goals:
    – ST: Go back to consulting firm (they’re sponsoring me)
    – LT: Work for/found a technically-grounded social impact business (something like Tesla Motors)

    I’ve read every analysis you’ve done on Indian Engineer profiles (assuming those are who I’m up against) and trawled through LinkedIn profiles of a bunch, and I don’t seem to fit the typical pattern (IIT -> MBB -> PE/VC). Not many people from my firm get MBAs, so not much help there. As I see it, I may have some kind of shot, but it probably won’t be at H/S (the ones I really want) ’cause there’s no box they could neatly put me into. What do you think?

    BTW, in case my suspicions are correct, would be interested in knowing what factors being different could’ve turned the no into a yes? Better scores, more prestigious firm and/or school, better extras, better-dovetailed goals?

  • Charles

    Those are very impressive credentials!

  • MBA Hopeful

    Hi Sandy and John,

    I’m interested in hearing your take on my chances at Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, and Columbia – as well as any other schools you recommend. My profile:

    GMAT: 730 (48Q, 42V) – Should I retake? While Verbal was 96%, Quant was 74%
    GPA: 3.19 (Extenuating circumstance early on which resulted in low grades, but in my last three semesters I took four semesters worth of courses and received a 3.6 average GPA).
    Undergrad: Economics from Harvard
    Alternative Transcript: 4.00 (I took five classes through UCLA Extension, including Accounting, Mathematics for Management, and Business Economics)
    Work experience: Product marketing manager at Facebook, promoted within 1.5 years.
    Goal: I’d like to stay in product marketing. Most of the executives on my team have a MBA, and I feel like it would advance my career whether I stay at Facebook or go to another tech company (Google, LinkedIn, Twitter, etc)
    Extracurriculars: I founded a small nonprofit that benefits children in Latin America, and I’ve also volunteered in Africa with Facebook. If it matters, I’m also very involved with my alma mater’s alumni community (fundraising, board of directors, etc)
    25-year-old Asian American female

    Thanks in advance!

  • Rotational MBA

    Hello!

    I am curious how a rotational program at a Fortune 100 company looks during admission

    740 GMAT, Verbal was better than quant
    3.6 GPA from Michigan Technological University – Operations and Systems Management
    3 years experience at The Dow Chemical Company in a supply chain rotational program. 3 distinct, 12 month roles in purchasing/supply chain improvement/operations.

    Few professional certifications.. APICS CPIM

    Leadership positions in the company’s internship program, toastmasters chapter, and a local nonprofit school board of directors. A few other activities, but not in leadership

    27 year old white male looking at Booth, Ross, Kellogg

  • Guest

    @ chuck …yesterday I picked up a new Mitsubishi Evo after having made $5212 this-last/month and-more than, 10 grand this past munth . with-out a doubt this is the most-comfortable work I’ve had . I actually started 6 months ago and almost immediately was bringing in at least $87 p/h .

    why not try this out

  • Improbabilitydrive

    Hi sandy, thanks for all your help. The videos are really helpful and fun! I am going through a tough time with my admissions research. Would really help if you could advice.

    I am an Indian male. 24 yrs on matriculation.

    Gmat 770 (51Q, 42 V, 8IR, 6AWA)

    Cfa level 2 candidate.

    Working at top investment bank(think ubs, Barclay, credit suisse etc) as business analyst. 3 years experience at matriculation.

    Top performer. Up for promotion in June. Can get top recommendations.

    Couple of occasions where I showed leadership

    Project lead fr a project which saved 1.5 man hours/day

    Chairman of country analyst committee. Editor of analyst newsletter etc.

    Managed several events as chairman.

    Winner of multiple (10+) national level streetplay(it’s a socially relevant form of theatre) during undergrad.

    Undergrad. Engineer from top college(though not iit, but jst below tht) 7.4gpa/10

    MBA goal: going into finance consulting for top 3

    Long term goals: microfinancing firm in india

    Questions:

    Odds at top 5- Harvard, Stanford, Wharton, booth, mit

    Is my work ex low? Will it significantly affect my chances?

    And your overall view on my profile!

    Thanks a Ton in advance!